OK OK - Girl Scout Murders, Lori Farmer, 8, Michele Guse, 9, Doris Milner, 10, 1977 #2

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This story is 7 years old now, and the crime was committed over 28 years ago. Although the main suspect was acquitted of the murders, it would be interesting to see what DNA says about it today. It is possible he might, in fact, have committed the crimes, but if not, then perhaps the real killer or killers might be found still.

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From: New York Daily News OnLine;
News and Views | Crime File |
Monday, November 30, 1998
[font=impact, helvetica bold, sans serif][size=+3]Unsolved Mystery [/size][/font]
[size=-1]By JOSEPH McNAMARA[/size]
Terry Tennant awoke in her tent. Although deep in sleep, she thought she had heard a scream. The 12-year-old awakened a friend, a pal girl scout on the first night of their planned two-week camping adventure. Both listened intently. They heard nothing like a scream. Both went back to sleep.

Elsewhere in the camp of 120 girls, another scout thought she heard screams. It had been a night of great excitement, as the girls chatted and giggled away the evening in the warm embrace of canvas. This scout now listened with hushed breath, but heard nothing. She also went back to sleep. It was 3 a.m. June 13, 1977.

But screams there might well have been, for at 6 a.m. a counselor going to wash found that three young girls had been torn from their tent and slain.

Michele Guse, 9, and Lori Lee Farmer, 8, had been beaten to death. Doris Milner, 10, had been beaten and strangled. All three had been raped. Two bodies lay in zipped sleeping bags. The third was on the open ground.

Fear raced through Camp Scott, about a mile outside sleepy Locust Grove in the northeast corner of Oklahoma. Mayes County Sheriff Glen Weaver was among the first of many investigators to reach the scene. He decided that the slayer had picked that particular tent because it was 50 feet from the others and near thick brush, which would have given the killer cover.

Also — and probers wondered if the killer might have known it — the fatal tent was among very few that did not have an adult counselor sleeping in it.

With the murder of the three girls, all from the Tulsa area 30 miles west, investigators descended on Locust Grove, a town of 1,019 people.

"I just don't think we have that many nuts in the area," the sheriff said. "It makes me pretty mad."

Hot on a Trail

Two days later, two tracking dogs were brought in from Pennsylvania to find the killer's path. Within a week, one died of heat prostration and the other was hit by a car. Others were brought in and led searchers to a small cave a mile from the murder scene.

Empty food cans indicated someone had lived there, if briefly. Also found: two tattered photographs of three women. The pictures, when spread across area newspapers, brought results in a day. The women were guests at the 1969 wedding of a prison worker's daughter.

Among those attending that wedding was a prison trusty named Gene Leroy Hart, who worked as a darkroom assistant at the prison.

"He's got to be our man," Weaver said.

At the time of the wedding Hart, 33, a Cherokee Indian, was serving a 10-year sentence for kidnapping two young women in Tulsa in 1966 and raping one of them.

He was paroled later in 1969 but was arrested within months on four counts of burglary. Convicted of the robberies, Hart was given 305 years — the second-largest term ever meted out in Tulsa. In 1973, during a transfer, Hart broke out of Weaver's jail in Pryor, Okla., and was still loose at the time of the three slayings.....

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Even if more modern, advanced tests were to determine conclusively that Hart had killed Michelle, Lorie, and Doris - and even if he were still alive - he could not be retried for their murders since he had already been acquitted of them. However, if new DNA tests were to point to a second killer, then the case would have to be reopened.

... In 1979, Hart was tried and acquitted in the deaths of Michelle Guse, 9, of Broken Arrow, and Lorie Lee Farmer, 8, and Doris Denise Milner, 10, both of Tulsa. Their molested, beaten and strangled bodies were found June 13, 1977, stuffed inside sleeping bags outside their tent at Camp Scott, two miles south of Locust Grove.

Hart was a convicted rapist and escapee from the Mayes County jail when he was charged with the scout slayings on June 20, 1977.

Hart was arrested by the OSBI 10 months later in a backwoods shack in the Cookson Hills of Cherokee County. It was the largest manhunt in state history.

Hart died June 4, 1979, after suffering a heart attack while jogging at the state penitentiary in McAlester. Hart, 35, was serving sentences for earlier rape convictions....

LINK:
DNA Tests Link Gene Leroy Hart to Girl Scout Deaths
 
New podcast explores true-crime stories

The new podcast "Late Edition: Crime Beat Chronicles," a product of Lee Enterprises, is a collection of limited anthology style episodes exploring true stories as told by journalists from regional newspapers around America.

For this first series the program takes a short drive due east of Tulsa, Oklahoma to learn more about the state's most notorious cold case: the 1977 slaying of three Girl Scouts as documented in journalist Tim Stanley's six-part series from 2017 for the Tulsa World marking the 40th anniversary of the tragedy.
 
New podcast explores true-crime stories

The new podcast "Late Edition: Crime Beat Chronicles," a product of Lee Enterprises, is a collection of limited anthology style episodes exploring true stories as told by journalists from regional newspapers around America.

For this first series the program takes a short drive due east of Tulsa, Oklahoma to learn more about the state's most notorious cold case: the 1977 slaying of three Girl Scouts as documented in journalist Tim Stanley's six-part series from 2017 for the Tulsa World marking the 40th anniversary of the tragedy.

Thanks, I just listened to it. It's very good! Look forward to hearing the rest of the episodes, I think there are 5 in all.
It's nice having a podcast that features members of the news media who reported on the case at the time and who did subsequent investigative and follow up stories.

For anyone who is new to this case or looking to learn the facts, evidence, etc. this podcast will be a good resource.
Sad to hear that Richard Guse had passed on. RIP
 
Many, many people in northeastern Oklahoma are of Native American origin.

It's more than a DNA match. It's also evidence from his previous kidnapping, rapes and attempted murders. It's the method of how he subdued other young women, the guttural grunting noises he made while attacking. Its him trying on and stealing his victim's eyeglasses.

All of those acts were also part of the Girl Scout murders, but the defense argued that the jurors could not hear anything of Hart's previous convictions for rape, kidnapping, attempted murder, etc. They couldn't hear any evidence about the similarities between the crimes, as listed above.

He was also living in the area, on the run after breaking out of jail. His mother and extended family lived nearby, he'd been there for about a year, IIRC. There were witnesses who described him going into the Girl Scout camp in the past to steal items.
 
A Locust Grove native and Cherokee Indian, Hart was already familiar to authorities. A convicted rapist and burglar, he was a two-time prison escapee and had been on the run for four years since his second escape from the Mayes County Jail.

Now, in addition to his previous convictions — the sentences for which totaled 300-plus years — he was facing three first-degree murder charges, Wise announced.

Hunt for accused Girl Scout slayer consumes region while dividing a community
 
If the investigation was starting from the ground up, you are almost certainly looking for someone familiar with that area.

Individual would most likely have a criminal background that included rape ,possibly prior abduction attempts , perhaps even murder or attempted murder.

There would be something in the weeks or days prior that would trigger the killings, legal trouble, trouble with a significant other, or employment problems

If looking at the maps is indicative of anything it appears the bodies were found away from their tent, which is indicative of an attempted abduction, possibly to move the victims to a vehicle.

The method used to kill the victims is also interesting, some killers simply kill their victims to avoid detection, they use the most expedient method at hand, usually strangulation or stabbing, firearms to a lesser extent.

Bludgeoning a victim, let alone multiple victims to death is often representative of displaced anger , hatred, and frustration, its often a very personal expressive means of killing.

There are also situational factors to consider in this for example, if we look at the criminal evolution of Ted Bundy, he went from charming or conning victims that he would then beat to death, to randomly and frenziedly bludgeoning co-eds because he was on the run, what remained static however was his hatred and disgust for women.

Once he felt comfortable again, the then abducted a 12 yo girl from her school, and raped and bludgeoned her to death as well.

Though his MO changed due to him being on the run, his "signature" remained constant, IE, Ted hated women.

This individual isn't much different.

Another interesting factor is that he attempted to move several victims, through an area where theres a high likelihood of being seen, a lone victim is hard enough to manage, 2 is extremely risky, 3, now youre either dealing with more than one offender or one that is neither worried about being discovered, and very sure of himself possibly because hes adept at it .

Its possible a single victim was targeted and he took the other 2 to avoid leaving witnesses. However I believe at least 2 were raped.

This also furthers my suspicion that the individual was very familiar and comfortable in that area .

Id expect along with a criminal history to see possible sexual issues with the offender in his past, relationships would be brief and short if any, work history would be sporadic, usually something blue collar unskilled or semi skilled at best .

Post offensive behavior would include an unusual and intense interest in the crimes, noticeable anxiety , restlessness, dietary changes, increase in use of intoxicants, sudden moves , change in appearance, shedding of personal belongings, sometimes they turn to religion, or to mentors.

The Individual may confide in someone they feel wont turn them in, this often falls under religious beliefs, or attorney client privilege .

However despite all this if the individual wasn't caught I feel 100% certain saying this individual would re-offended .

We can speculate that without the presence of subsequent similar cases, that the individual responsible, is either incarcerated, dead or incapacitated, but that is unreliable , as we have found in many cases, individuals can and do sometimes stop for various reasons .

That would be a very general profile of the individual I feel would be responsible.
 
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Another interesting factor is that he attempted to move several victims, through an area where theres a high likelihood of being seen, a lone victim is hard enough to manage, 2 is extremely risky, 3, now youre either dealing with more than one offender or one that is neither worried about being discovered, and very sure of himself possibly because hes adept at it .
Sorry to say that but "victims" isn't specific enough. Two small, light weight girls in sleeping bags are scarily easy to carry. With only scared, bound and injured Denise it's nothing one man couldn't do.
Also risk of being noticed, in the dark, wooded area, (which you know well and attend regularly) is almost non existent.
Who could notice him? Little girls from urban areas? One of few teenagers using lights while attempting to see something in the dark? That's no danger.
 
Sorry to say that but "victims" isn't specific enough. Two small, light weight girls in sleeping bags are scarily easy to carry. With only scared, bound and injured Denise it's nothing one man couldn't do.
Also risk of being noticed, in the dark, wooded area, (which you know well and attend regularly) is almost non existent.
Who could notice him? Little girls from urban areas? One of few teenagers using lights while attempting to see something in the dark? That's no danger.


Victim(s) as in plural , multiple more than 1 victim, child or not .

The offender has no idea who may be around that site there cold be counselors or yes other people to alert the counselors of someone carrying (as you seem to be asserting) a child or children across the campground .

Thats risk, its high risk , the danger there is being discovered

He didnt take them away from the camp to kill them he did it near an entrance. If he simply intended to kill them he could've done that where they lay in the tent.

There was more to it
 

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