OK - Jacob Hedger, 8 mos, died of head injuries, Edmond, 8 March 2011

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  1. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    Or, the thread title could read: "Baby's murder remains unsolved - of course it does, it happened in Oklahoma."

    Mystery surrounds Edmond baby's homicide (Sunday Oklahoman)

    Hmm....one wonders if that last 'graf above contains telling facts about why the homicide remains unsolved.
    much, much more - lengthy article, along with a video interview of the baby's aunt - at link above
     
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  3. MsFacetious

    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    “A baby — my baby, our baby — has been murdered,” the second-grade teacher said. “We're just waiting. It's almost like, ‘The longer we let it go, you'll just forget about it.' … Well, that's not an option for us.”

    She said, “I need my son's murder solved.”

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    Jake had been injured before, suffering a fractured arm two months earlier,
    records show.
    Both the parents and Traci Kramer knew about the injury, but all three told investigators they don't know who did it.

    His mother took him to be examined
    . She said the doctor reported he was hurt by someone pulling on his arm.

    Read more: http://newsok.com/mystery-surrounds-edmond-babys-homicide/article/3626761#ixzz1ewBrCZnP


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    I just barely got personalized bibs for my nephew... with his name on them. Just like Jacob's pacifier.

    My first thought was "another one in Oklahoma?"

    We have a family member who's wife took off with their two young kids... met a guy and moved in with him.
    I was asked to assist them in how to go about fighting for the kids. I was giving them the typical information about that.

    Then they said "She is in Oklahoma" and I about had a coronary. The urgency went up drastically.
    I don't know much of anything about Oklahoma... except protecting kids is not their strong point.

    I think this might be being made more difficult than it really is. Possibly due to who the babysitter is.

    Parents are fighting for the case to be solved. (Refreshing, really.)
    Babysitter is what??? Doing nothing.

    Parents took a polygraph... babysitter what??? Won't take one.
    That's a good start right there...
     
  4. MorenoI

    MorenoI New Member

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    This is horrible...of course no one will say hey I did it! I hope justice for this baby boy comes soon... RIP Jake.
     
  5. Filly

    Filly KICKING AND SHINING

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    Wow. Just wow. Names, dates, and the babysitter called to arrange for her own child to be picked up at school before bothering to call Lil Jake's parents.



    http://stopcorruptdss.wordpress.com/tag/zane-hedger/

    This lil doll should be toddling around right now at one of the most awesome ages a lil goes through. Smiling, saying a word here and there and exploring this beautiful life, and toddling, toddling, toddling.
     
  6. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    Still not holding my breath and expecting an arrest any time soon. Hope I'm wrong though.

    Doctor's report narrows time Edmond's baby Jake was injured
    So....why possibly has an arrest not been made?
    much more at Sunday Oklahoman link above
     
  7. danisisa

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    It blows my mind that the parents took the baby back to a place where he may have been hurt. If my baby came home with a hurt arm, and I believed my husband did nor I did it, then there is no way in heck I would have taken my baby back.Any slight suspicion should mean change places.

    The first sitter who watched my son in a in home daycare got kicked to the curb when my son would clutch onto me when i picked him up and dropped him off. I thought he was just adjusting. On the third week, enough. I took him to a new one and he did fine.

    Trust you instincts mommys and daddys.
     
  8. Quiche

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    Makes me wonder if there was a teenager living in the babysitter's home? The investigation is odd, at best, and sort of reeks of cronyism. Question is, who are they protecting/letting this get by as an accident even in the face of facts that don't support that.

    Yikes, the big city has its advantages. mo
     
  9. passionflower

    passionflower Just 1 tip to find a killer

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    the wife of a drug lab supervisor at the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation. She was operating an unlicensed home day care
    respectfully snipped by me for space and bolded by me.
    She has 'connections', that is why there is no justice served in this case!
    JMOO
     
  10. Belinda

    Belinda Doer of Things

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    The OSBI is completely worthless. I have read so many cases, whether concerning children or adults, and they are just completely inept, unprofessional and unable to do the job. All of them. It is pitiful. There are so many families there waiting for some kind of justice that they will probably never get. They couldn't solve a case to save their souls. I'm completely disgusted.
     
  11. Gingy

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    This case is infuriating. A baby is dead and there is no movement on the case by LE - MOO, of course, but it would seem like they are protecting one of their own.

    OK DHS report to the DA is here:

    http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.newsok.com/documents/2wdedbaby0001.pdf

    A grand jury has been convened and the Kramers have been asked to testify on Jan 31.

    http://newsok.com/experts-report-narrows-time-when-baby-jake-was-hurt/article/3640485

    Some telling information from the article (Butler is the Hedgers lawyer, James is the Kramers' lawyer):

    Wow wow wow. Pleading the 5th? That shows me something - hopefully it does the grand jury too. MOO, JMO, etc. etc.
     
  12. lauriej

    lauriej 'wild rose country...'

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    http://newsok.com/oklahoma-lawmaker...-remove-boy-from-home/article/3626763/?page=2
    Oklahoma lawmaker, task force question DHS decision to remove boy from home


     
  13. lauriej

    lauriej 'wild rose country...'

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    BBM

    --she actually never called jake's parents at ALL
    --she called her husband, before calling 911

    --while ON the 911 call she used her other phone to call the school to arrange for her daughter to take the bus home

    --jake's mom ( a gr.2 teacher at the school heard over her class intercom that the girl would be taking the bus and wondered what was going on at her babysitter's house..)

    --jake's dad got a call from his sister (aunt tammy) who told him an ambulance had been seen leaving the babysitter's house

    http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.newsok.com/documents/2wdedbaby0001.pdf
    --DHS Report to D.A.--

    http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.newsok.com/documents/wdedbaby0001.pdf
    --Police Incident Report--

    http://newsok.com/audio-from-edmond-911-call/multimedia/video/1292396868001
    --911 Call--
     
  14. Still_Seek_Answers

    Still_Seek_Answers Hope is our strength......love is our determinatio

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    ,,This is beyond horrible.No child of that age should have those types of injuries. I raised 3 boys, and once they get big enough they will climb it if they can, they will try to jump it with their bikes if they think they have a chance.....but at that age, they stay pretty injury free. You really need one of the National shows to run this story. Try Nancy Grace, Issues, any and or all of them. It is apparent the state on your local level are doing nothing, you can also try writing your attorney general. On cases like this one getting the story out there is the hard part, but once you do that, public outrage will cause a proper investigation. No baby should die this way........
     
  15. KariKae

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    So, did the parents refuse the police poly? Or just go ahead and have one done since the police did not ask them to take one?
     
  16. lauriej

    lauriej 'wild rose country...'

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    http://dialog.newsedge.com/portal.a...t-IclL372RvOKGSiRRq]&rtcrdata=on&epname=EFORE&

    Mystery surrounds Edmond baby's homicide


     
  17. lauriej

    lauriej 'wild rose country...'

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    http://newsok.com/oklahoma-multicou...ond-babys-death/article/3645161#ixzz1lChQ8on6

    Oklahoma multicounty grand jury looks into Edmond baby's death

    More Oklahoma multicounty grand jury testimony is expected Thursday in the case of an Edmond baby's death. The child's parents, Zane and Leah Hedger, as well as the baby sitter, Traci Kramer, could testify then.


    BY NOLAN CLAY nclay@opubco.com Oklahoman Published: February 1, 2012





     
  18. Belinda

    Belinda Doer of Things

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    This is an out and out lie. Only the Kramers have refused polygraphs and interviews. Typical for the OSBI.

    Read more: http://newsok.com/oklahoma-multicou...ond-babys-death/article/3645161#ixzz1lDPGmLYE
     
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    I cannot find any updates. What a beautiful baby! I wonder if one of the children did it?
     
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    Grand jurors also have been investigating the homicide of an Edmond baby. Witnesses in that investigation testified Tuesday and Thursday. The grand jury is expected to take up that case again Feb. 23.

    Read more: http://newsok.com/oklahoma-grand-ju...city-government/article/3645653#ixzz1lN49hT84
     
  21. MsFacetious

    MsFacetious What a Kerfuffle...

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    About another high-profile homicide case, involving an Edmond baby, the grand jury did not express any optimism in its report.

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    At issue is when the baby suffered the trauma that killed him
    — before or after his parents dropped him off with the baby sitter, Traci Kramer.
    Experts have differing opinions on the time.

    Grand jurors reported taking testimony from multiple witnesses about the baby’s death and reviewing medical records “from multiple physicians and medical personnel.”

    “This is a tragic and heartbreaking case and it is recommended that law enforcement and future grand juries continue to investigate the case,” the grand jury wrote.

    http://newsok.com/oklahoma-county-g...-will-be-solved/article/3703723#ixzz24UVr0IXm

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