Match! OK - Kingston, UnsMale UP4965, 20-30, 'Anita' tattoo, Feb'85 *Guadelupe Gaona*

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  1. MizKim

    MizKim Member

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    ChancellorJ found this potential match

    and I'm just starting this thread to get a discussion going as I didn't see a thread for this UID.
    Looks like a match to me.
    UID
    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/4965
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1811umok.html

    Guadelupe Gaona - https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14442/0/ http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4777dmtx.html

    okuid.jpg lupe.jpeg
     


  2. ChancellorJ

    ChancellorJ New Member

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    Oh wow, thanks for posting this. :) I really think it matches up pretty well, and if you notice, Lupe wasn't reported missing for two years after his disappearance, so when they found the John Doe, Lupe wouldn't've shown up as a potential match for years.

    I emailed the info to Texas officials, but I'm not sure I could get the number to work for the OK office. There's been no response, and even if my guess is right I fear that it's just being ignored.
     
  3. MizKim

    MizKim Member

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    It looks like a good match to me and your logic makes sense. Did you turn it into the case manager in OK? Its listed under the UID's namus profile or doenetwork profile
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  4. ChancellorJ

    ChancellorJ New Member

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    When I called for Ms. Berg I was told I had the wrong number (the one listed on the site) for her. I can try again, but I was confused by this. I was only able to turn it into the TX office, they had me email it.
     
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    carbuff Well-Known Member

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  6. MizKim

    MizKim Member

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    Here's an email for the OK ME for unidentified people:
    Unidentifiedpersons@ocme.ok.gov
     
  7. ChancellorJ

    ChancellorJ New Member

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    Hey, thank you so much. I also found this exchange online, regarding Goana and another body. http://z10.invisionfree.com/usedtobedoe/ar/t74942.htm

    Oklahoma ME responded (thanks for the email!!) and thanked me for my tip. She mentioned there wasn't DNA or dental records on file, so she has to do some digging before he can be ruled out or confirmed. I'm shaking with excitement. I'm SO hopeful. Thank you for all your help, I feel like this is something important. :)
     
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    carbuff Well-Known Member

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    Goana has an Anita tat on his left arm? OMG. This has to be him.


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  9. wintermute

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    I agree, this has to be a match. The "L & A" tattoo on the UID probably stands for Lupe & Anita.

    Great job, ChancellorJ!
     
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    Bump.
     
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    Lloyd Raymond Gilsdorf
    Missing since July 29, 1984 from Pensacola, Escambia County, Florida
    Classification: Missing

    Vital Statistics
    Date Of Birth: October 29, 1952
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 31 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'6"; 160-165 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White male. Brown hair; blue eyes. Beard and mustache.
    Clothing: Blue jeans, sport shirt and moccasins.
    Dentals: Available


    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Gilsdorf was last seen in Pensacola on July 29, 1984. He was reported as missing on January 10, 1985.
    LGilsdorf[1].jpg

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4312dmfl.html I found this guy the stats seem to fit. he is not in the rule outs.. his names begins with a L
     
  13. Otterly

    Otterly Well-Known Member

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    I also agree, this has to be a match. I just looked at Lupe's namus page, and I don't know how recently it was added, but under physical/medical it mentions an "Anita" tattoo on his left forearm. As wintermule said, great work ChancellorJ!

    The issue would seem to be that there's DNA for Lupe, but no dentals or fingerprints. While for the UID, there are fingerprints and dentals, but no DNA. Though, namus inidicates "sample not yet submitted", so it seems to be a waiting game at this point.
     
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    I assume you are correct about that. Hard to believe, but a year is not very long to wait. A case in MA took four years from when the remains were found and immediately suspected to be the missing woman to when the family got final confirmation.

    Before DNA, I think they probably would have made the identification on the basis of what we know. But now they have to be sure.

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  15. MizKim

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    I received a message that Gaona had been ID as the UID. There are permission errors for both Gaona and UID. I think it would be a match for ChancellorJ.

    Calling CarlK! For verification!
     
  16. ChancellorJ

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    I received messages, as well (both here and on reddit). I've not heard anything official, but there's no doubt in my mind at all. I hope his family finds some peace in this.
     
  17. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    The decedent has been ID'd as Guadelupe Gaona


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    http://kfor.com/2017/11/02/cold-cas...eceased-victim-32-years-after-body-was-found/

    The reports say "medical examiners were opening cold cases when they found the match through DNA comparison", and that this occurred "about three months ago".

    They don't say anything about a tip, but this thread very well documents that ChancellorJ called in the tip a year and a half ago, and that Angela Berg replied to his email. This is clearly a WS Match!

    Congrats ChancellorJ
     
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    Jake479 Well-Known Member

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    RIP Guadelupe Gaona
     
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    Rest in peace, Guadelupe :rose:
     
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    :yourock::yourock:
    Great work!!:yourock::yourock:
     

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