OK OK - Oklahoma City, WhtFem Skull UP6728, 25-40, In Stinchcomb Wildlife Refuge, Mar'09

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  1. tk71texas

    tk71texas wth is wrong with people today

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    aprilmillwood New Member

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    Have they compared her to Susan Smiley?
     
  4. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I don't see a Susan Smiley in either Charley, NAMPN, NamUs, or DoeNet.

    There's an Alicia Smiley, but she is a black girl who was 3 years old when she went missing in 1985.

    Do you have a link to any info on Susan?
     
  5. aprilmillwood

    aprilmillwood New Member

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    Sorry I was in a hurry and misspelled the name here is the link:

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/102dftx.html

    Her name is Susan Smalley. There is also another skull on Namus that was found in Oklahoma that reminds me of the one she went missing with Stacie Madison. Just an idea the recreation and the girl look similar.
     
  6. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    I thought her name sounded familiar. I've looked at her case a few times. She does have a very similar facial shape to Susan. Since we have only a skull, we don't know how tall she was. Susan was 5'8" - a little on the tall side for a woman

    A couple of things though - the recon appears to depict a chipped front tooth. I wonder if that was chipped antemortem or postmortem. I believe they do have a way of telling the difference.

    Also, the skull was found recently, and Susan and Stacy disappeared back in 1988. I guess her remains could have been buried for 20 years, and then washed from land into the river, and up onto the banks.

    I'd say it's a good possible, given that there is so little to go on.
     
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    aprilmillwood New Member

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    How would find out if she has been ruled out?
     
  8. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    If you don't see her name in the NamUs casefile for this UID ...
    https://identifyus.org/cases/6728 (Nancy Medina is the only name listed)​

    ... you can check out Websleuths rule-out thread:
    You can also do a Websleuths site-wide search on Susan Smalley's name and the UID's NamUs and DoeNet case numbers to see if that possible match was considered before in discussion on a different thread (BTW, there doesn't appear to be a DoeNetwork case file for this UID).

    ... and you can check out Porchlight's rule-out threads:

    http://z13.invisionfree.com/PorchlightUSA/index.php?act=idx (scroll down to the "Potential Matches" section).

    If you can't find evidence of a submission or rule out by the above means, the only other option that I know of is to just call in and ask.
     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    BTW, the NamUs file indicates that no jawbone was found. Therefore, any resemblance in the chin and jawline is coincidental.
     
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    webrocket New Member

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    they are up to 4 rule-outs now:

    Kristen Charbonneau 1980 Texas
    Katherine Heck 1950 Kentucky
    Nancy Jean Medina 1948 Oklahoma
    Sherry Milton 1979 Alabama
     
  11. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/989/0/
    Susan Smalley has dentals available and entered.
    Her DNA tests are complete.


    The UID has DNA complete and entered and dentals for the maxilla are available.
    https://identifyus.org/cases/6728
    - - f a n no o o o n no n a o a n


    3 - OL Amalgam
    6 - Rotated 90 degrees clockwise
    7,8,9,14 - Root Only
    11 - facial cavity
    16 - facial cusps missing

    Can we assume that they were not a match based on dentals or does the system require data for both jaws to alert for potential matches?
     
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    KateB New Member

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    Updated ruleouts:

    Fawn M Abell 1969 Oklahoma
    Rozlin Rochelle Abell 1966 Oklahoma
    Kristen Charbonneau 1980 Texas
    Dail Dinwiddie 1969 South Carolina
    Francine Frost 1938 Oklahoma
    Katherine Heck 1950 Kentucky
    Nancy Jean Medina 1948 Oklahoma
    Sherry Milton 1979 Alabama
     
  13. rats

    rats Where is Justice for the Jane and John Does?

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    Updated Ruleouts:

    Fawn M Abell 1969 Oklahoma
    Rozlin Rochelle Abell 1966 Oklahoma
    Kristen Charbonneau 1980 Texas
    Dail Dinwiddie 1969 South Carolina
    Cerilla Doyle 1957 Arkansas
    Tracy L Florez 1971 Oklahoma
    Francine Frost 1938 Oklahoma
    Katherine Heck 1950 Kentucky
    Nancy Jean Medina 1948 Oklahoma
    Sherry Milton 1979 Alabama
     
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    allmybecsloveme Member

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    rats Where is Justice for the Jane and John Does?

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    Updated Ruleouts:

    Fawn M Abell 1969 Oklahoma
    Rozlin Rochelle Abell 1966 Oklahoma
    Kristen Charbonneau 1980 Texas
    Dail Dinwiddie 1969 South Carolina
    Cerilla Doyle 1957 Arkansas
    Tracy L Florez 1971 Oklahoma
    Francine Frost 1938 Oklahoma
    Katherine Heck 1950 Kentucky
    Nancy Jean Medina 1948 Oklahoma
    Sherry Milton 1979 Alabama
    Cynthia Marie Robinson 1969 California
     
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    Pamela Tinsely was last seen at Lake Overholser.
     
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