OK OK - Pittsburg Co., WhtMale UP5170 & WhtFem UP5174, 18-30, GSW, Apr'95

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  1. FindingClosure

    FindingClosure New Member

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    Could there have been more than one person involved? Were they killed at the location they were found?
     


  2. Finders

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    It was speculated they were shot and then drug about 50 yards to where they were found.
     
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    His shirt seems outdated for 95. I remember Ocean Pacific being in style in the 80's. Maybe it was in style in other areas of the country/world. Does anyone remember?
     
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    It was sold in the juniors department when I was in elementary/middle school in the 90’s. I think I remember seeing it at sears when we used to go school shopping.
     
  6. Finders

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    For some reason i'm now questioning the train hopper theory. I remember watching a documentary about train hoppers and they all dressed "gutter punk". These clothes don't seem to match with that. I'm really bothered by this all of a sudden.
     
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  8. Finders

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    They need to be exhumed for DNA. I just realized they have no DNA on file.
     
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    I am attempting to get the ball rolling on their exhumation in so much as i have spoken to the coroner, the county clerk, a detective,and finally found out a judge has to sign an order for exhumation. I have reached out to two judges. Fingers Crossed!!!
     
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  10. Kano

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    Wish we had some clothing pictures on this one..
     
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  11. madamx

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    That is really interesting. Did they ever find out who killed that couple and why?
     
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  12. Kano

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    it is pretty interesting that they went all the way to that spot for whatever reason
     
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  13. Nancy Drew RN

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    There are elements that make this couple sound more transient (ill-fitting clothing, although plenty of people don't wear the size they might by measurement), but the rings throw me. They don't sound expensive, but they're nicer than someone in tight circumstances would have. Real gold, real diamond. I suspect it's something like the Jimmy Hendricks/Kim Mills situation, where the couple might have good reason to leave, and their families assume that that's why they're gone. It would go along with the less than professional tattoos (I agree with those that think that his cross more closely resembles a swastika). I don't know why they would have been killed, though. I assume a robber would take jewelry or watches, although perhaps they weren't thought to be real/valuable or maybe there was something else that was the primary target (car, cash, drugs).

    The absence of shoes makes me think of a trucker. Supposedly truckers will make someone take off their shoes before getting in a cab.

    I saw it suggested earlier that they might be Martha Wes Dunn, 15, and her boyfriend Eric Glenn Owens, 17, who disappeared in September 1990 from Daingerfield, TX. They were thought to be heading toward Haworth, OK, and were seen in Durant, OK, both of which are 1-2 hours south of where these UIDs were found. They were said to be heavily into drugs at that time. I can't say that Eric, in particular, closely resembles the reconstruction, although he may have matured from when his photos were taken. I have no idea why he might have an R tattoo. However, Martha is noted to have a pointed eyetooth, and gaps in her teeth. She appears to have a wide jaw/strong chin. At the time she went missing, she was 5'4", and variously described as 95-120 lbs.

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  14. Nancy Drew RN

    Nancy Drew RN Well-Known Member

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    Updated rule-out lists:

    Jane Doe:
    Shannon Green
    Karen Spencer
    Bobbi Campbell
    Stephanie Benton
    Jeanie Lofton
    Bonnie Dages
    Patricia Schmidt
    Linda Davis
    Tammie Wilkinson

    John Doe:
    Jarrod Green
    Robert Keck
    Robert Houk
    Randy Sellers
     
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  15. Kano

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    bad thing is that oversized clothing was popular in 1995.
     
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    Wow I see the resemblance with both of them. Good Find Nancy!
     
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  17. Backabeyond

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    Except Dunn and Owens went missing in 1990. These bodies were found in 95 and couldn’t be that old considering that they know of a tattoo on the UID. Also, Dunn being 15 and Owens 17, and also being poor rural kids, the existence of wedding rings seems highly unlikely.
     
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  18. Backabeyond

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    Resendiz killed a lady in the town over from daingerfield and it was very close to the train tracks, where the trains regularly slowed or stopped. Martha and Eric were nowhere near his area. Not to mention that this murder was in 98. 8 yrs after Dunn and Owens disappear.
     
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    There's no reason to think they died in 1990 though. They could have lived rough for years. Or they could have found a place to settle down, had jobs, and been living a fairly normal young married life including matching wedding rings.
     
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