GUILTY OR - Michael Piete, 43, & Kenneth Gilliland, 64, murdered, Grant County, 2 Oct 2013

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  1. Reader

    Reader New Member

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    http://www.centurylink.net/news/rea...p-e_ore_teen_held_in_deer_camp_killings_of-ap

    GRANTS PASS, Ore. (AP) — A 14-year-old boy on a deer hunting trip shot and killed two others in the hunting party at a cabin in the Blue Mountains of northeastern Oregon, then accidentally shot and wounded himself, authorities said Thursday.......

    The teenager fled after shooting the men but then apparently accidentally shot himself in the leg and returned to the cabin for help, Grant County Sheriff Glenn Palmer said in a statement. Another member of the group held the boy at gunpoint, forced him to get on the floor, then taped him to a chair.......

    Sheriff Palmer declined to answer questions about a possible motive or the relationship between the boy and the two men. He said it likely would be Friday morning before any names are released, after the victims' families have been notified.......
     
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  3. EmmaliLucia

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    Welp, there goes my peace of mind about a safe camping trip this weekend...
     
  4. Reader

    Reader New Member

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    Sheriff: Victim in Oregon camp killings was foster father of teenage suspect; 2 guns involved

    One of the two men shot and killed in a deer-hunting camp in northeastern Oregon was the foster father of the 14-year-old boy identified as the shooter, authorities said Friday.

    Grant County Sheriff Glenn Palmer also said two guns were involved — a hunting rifle and a revolver — and the shootings both occurred around midnight Wednesday, with one victim shot inside a cabin and the other one outside.

    Michael Piete, 43, was the foster father of the suspect, whose name has not been released because of his age, authorities said. The other victim was Kenneth C. Gilliland, 64, Both men were from Baker City........more......
     
  5. Cherry

    Cherry Pie

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    wow; I'm sure as a foster father; he might not have known this child very well. I wonder how long he has been in his care and who exactly he shot. How terrifying. I grew up around guns; I know my firearms and I of course, know how to handle weapons. As a child of 7 or 8 I was taught by ex military; and LE. So; I wonder why so many don't make sure their children are properly trained and or taught. We are so failing this generation of kids..
     
  6. deca

    deca New Member

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    I think most of us can't help but wonder if the 14 yo had a reason for killing these 2 men....Hope LE gets to the bottom of this.
     
  7. SilkySifaka

    SilkySifaka Active Member

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    First thought that came to my mind.
     
  8. Mouse

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    http://www.bluemountaineagle.com/fr...cle_119c7d6c-2d29-11e3-a748-0019bb2963f4.html

     
  9. Linda7NJ

    Linda7NJ Active Member

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    Hmmmmmm


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  10. the seeker

    the seeker New Member

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    the first article was wrong...it said Grants Pass...Grants Pass is nowhere near Baker City..??
     
  11. jnTexas

    jnTexas Can't wait for softball and baseball to start :-)

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    was he the only child there? I hope they release more information soon
     
  12. Mouse

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    I think Grants Pass is the location of the AP office that the reporter works out of, so it's meant to be the location of where the "reporting" is being done, not the location of the incident itself.
     
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    Sonya610 Former Member

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    burbqueen New Member

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    Hmmmmm.....waiting for more info, but I got some seriously crazy thoughts!
     
  15. Reader

    Reader New Member

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    First, I forgot the link for #3:
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/10/0...ngs-was-foster-father-teenage-suspect-2-guns/

    Also from your link Sonya:

    This article shows there were 2 other men in the hunting party, and the investigation is ongoing:

    http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20131005/NEWS0107/310050378/1001/NEWS01
     
  16. al66pine

    al66pine New Member

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    from Reader's link to bendbulletin.com:
    "The three were staying with two others at a cabin at a deer camp on private land off Forest Road... The cabin is owned by Bill Gilliland, of Tidewater .... He is Kenneth Gilliland’s brother." SBM

    So about midnight, the 14 y/o shot his foster father (Michael P) and other man, Kenneth G, one inside cabin, the other outside.

    From bluemountaineagle.com link:
    "Palmer [LE] said the owner fled, crawling on hands and knees at one point to find a vehicle with keys in it. He got to a truck and was able to drive off to Granite, about nine miles away, and call for help."

    And the fifth man, per bendbulletin.com link:
    "... the boy left the cabin on foot and at some point accidentally shot himself in the right leg. He returned to the cabin for help and another man held the boy at gunpoint and ordered him to the floor.
    "The man, who was not identified, Palmer said, got on top of the boy to restrain him and later duct-taped him to a chair until law enforcement arrived."

    Had the 4th man already driven away for help, by the time the teen came back? So the fifth man tore duct tape off the roll (a two handed job), and held teen at gunpoint and taped him down at the same time?

    By that time, had teen become weak, suffering loss of blood? In shock?

    In ordinary circumstances, imo, it would be difficult for a man to duct tape a teen (perhaps a moving target, so to speak) to a chair.
    Kudos to him for being able to do it.

    JM:twocents: and I may be wrong.
     
  17. Linda7NJ

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    This ones gonna be interesting for sure


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  18. Reader

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    Murder charge for teen in camp shootings

    http://www.koin.com/news/oregon/teen-charged-with-murder-in-deer-camp-shootings

    (AP) -- A 14-year-old boy faces two juvenile counts of aggravated murder in the shootings of his foster father and another man at a deer camp in northeastern Oregon.

    The Grant County district attorney's office said Wednesday the boy was arraigned by video in Canyon City and is being held at a juvenile facility......more.....
     
  19. Sonya610

    Sonya610 Former Member

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    I thought the teen came back to the cabin for HELP. At that point he other man forced him to lay down the weapon and held the teen at gunpoint.

    If you are holding a wounded killer at gunpoint it wouldn't be all that hard to duct tape them -- just toss them the roll of tape and tell them to get it started. You could make them duct tape their hands on their own if you wanted too, they don't have a lot of choice in the matter.
     
  20. al66pine

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    S...BM

    sonya,

    W. the man being alone w. teen, I was thinking duct taping wd/be tricky.
    But you're right. A gun wd/make it easier for him to force the teen to do some of the taping himself.

    As Al Capone allegedly said:
    You can go a long way with a smile, but you can go a lot further with a smile and a gun. :seeya:
     
  21. SilkySifaka

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    If there was abuse I don't blame him and I expect to see it come out at trial IMO

    ok i put the elephant in the room out there
     

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