One might think constructing potentially deadly booby traps on Federal Property might lead to some charges though I wont hold my breath these guys have gotten pass after pass that would have gotten others locked up for life.(or worse.)John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 13h13 hours ago Portland, OR
heard from a federal source FBI is finding "rudimentary booby traps" at the Malheur national wildlife refuge
@JohnLGC what? Like water buckets over the door, or spikes under the carpet?
John Sepulvado ‏@JohnLGC 13h13 hours ago
actually it's more serious - vehicles rigged to burn or blow when turned on.
One might think constructing potentially deadly booby traps on Federal Property might lead to some charges though I wont hold my breath these guys have gotten pass after pass that would have gotten others locked up for life.(or worse.)
Would love to hear one of these "Patriots" explain and equivocate how there is a difference between setting up a roadside explosive device in Iraq to kill or maim American Troops ....and setting up an exploding device to maim or kill American Law Enforcement personal or American Federal employees?
Or setting up an explosive device to maim or kill innocent bystanders and participants at a marathon?
Agree. Could you imagine what would happen if a group of armed, low income minority folks took over a federal building for a month , shot at police, stole government vehicles, then booby trapped everything with bombs before leaving? They would end up dead. Why are these cretins given a free pass?
Except that a sheriff in Idaho has zero jurisdiction in Oregon. Unless he's a Federal Marshall (like on the show Eureka), his opinion is worthless.Since Sheriff Doug thinks Sandy and Sean did nothing wrong, I'm thinking about moving into his taxpayer paid office and maybe set up a cot and a bonfire. Please send snacks. Snickers would be good. Maybe s'mores...
Former law enforcement officials say just as federal rangers didn't want to get in the middle of a firefight at the 2014 standoff, they likely wanted to avoid launching what could become a gun battle if they tried to arrest Cliven Bundy at his 160-acre ranch.
"I have done a lot of tactical operations and the best option is to be patient and to get them isolated," he said.
It's not unusual to take time to build a strong case, as well as build the confidence among targets that they can move around without fear of arrest and speak freely on social media, experts said.
The FBI seems to have drawn from the same page of the playbook on both Cliven and Ammon Bundy's arrests, Coulson and others said.
In a news conference after the arrests, the FBI's Bretzing addressed why authorities had chosen that moment for the arrests.
"In any operation there's a group of leadership that's running the show, so to speak, and at this juncture it appeared those in a leadership position would be off the refuge and traveling elsewhere," he said. "We took the opportunity to effect the arrest at that time."
After those arrests, Cliven Bundy grew increasing vocal in support of the remaining occupiers and called on others to join the movement. He, too, "traveled elsewhere" as he made the flight to Portland from Nevada – a move he'd announced on social media.
He was arrested at the airport -- a location that provided protection for agents because he couldn't carry weapons on the flight.
"This was an opportunistic approach," said Tung Yin, a professor at Lewis & Clark Law School who specializes in criminal justice.
"If you put yourself in the shoes of government and the FBI, in terms of what they knew back in 2014 and what they thought might happen if they rushed in," he said, "the likelihood of another Ruby Ridge or Waco is possible."
Nevada rancher Cliven D. Bundy asked for a court-appointed attorney as he made his first appearance Thursday in federal court following his arrest the night before at Portland International Airport.
http://www.boiseweekly.com/boise/id...adicalized-sleep-deprived/Content?oid=3714415Giddings said he believed the Andersons had been "radicalized."
"Then they got that gang mentality of, 'We're going to stick together,' and then through sleep deprivation and self-talk and all this crap, they were really stupid in their decision," he said.
Giddings added that if a similar occupation of a federal facility were to occur in his county—home to both U.S. Forest Service and BLM offices—"the sheriff's department would deal with it. The FBI would have nothing to do with it. It would be a $300 fine and go home.
Calling all militia: go to Idaho County for future standoffs.
He gets to decide if the FBI investigates incidents in federal buildings... ?