OR OR - Roseburg, UnkFem 25-40, UP71947, skull, PMI 20 yrs, filling in mandibular molar, Jul '20

[Melt71]

www.namus.gov/UnidentifiedPersons/Case#/71947
Oh dear. A desk ornament?

Unidentified Person / NamUs #UP71947 Female, Uncertain
Date Body Found July 8, 2020
Location Found Roseburg, Oregon
Estimated Age Range 25-40 Years

Associated Case
Case Numbers
NCIC Number --
ViCAP Number --
NCMEC Number --
ME/C Case Number 200708-458
Demographics
Sex Female
Race / Ethnicity Uncertain
Estimated Age GroupAdult - Pre 40
Estimated Age Range (Years)25-40 -
Estimated PMI 20 Years

Circumstances
Type Unidentified Deceased
Date Body Found July 8, 2020
NamUs Case Created July 21, 2020
Location Found Map
Location Roseburg, Oregon 97417
County Douglas County
Found On Tribal Land No
Circumstances of Recovery A skull and mandible were found in the personal possessions of a deceased individual. Associates of the individual remember seeing the skull on the deceased man's desk, thinking it was fake. The skull and mandible were determined to be real skeletal material, and an antemortem filling can be observed in one of the mandibular molars, thus making this a contemporary case. The skeletal remains were turned over to law enforcement.
Details of Recovery
Condition of Remains Not recognizable - Partial skeletal parts only

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

So, the PMI on 20 years could be the number of years people observed the skull on the desk, right? There certainly isn't a lack of missing girls in the Pacific Northwest before the 2000s

Reminds me of the chiropractor's bones, or Colorado cauldron Doe (what's up with all these people dragging random skulls home without contacting LE?).

 

[Keane]

 

[MadMcGoo]

SOooO many questions.

 

[b741ma]

Interesting case.

Assuming the victim was from the Roseburg area it might be Debra Vanluven a 40 year old who went missing in 1997. However the prime suspect in Vanluven's case is her live in boyfriend Michael Braae, a suspected serial killer. I'm assuming if the remains were found in Braae's posession the police would've already connected the dots by now. Still it's worth considering.

Debra Mae Vanluven - MP11873

Missing from Roseburg, Oregon since March 1,1997
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

37 year old Victoria Soderberg went missing from nearby Grants Pass in 2002. It appears that prior to her death she was involved in some sort of illegal activities as the photo on her NAMUS profile is from a booking the year before. The information on her case is scant so I have no idea what she was booked for. This could be her.

Victoria Regina Soderberg - MP20370

Missing from Grants Pass, Oregon on August 13, 2002.
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Katrina Sweaney was also from Grants Pass but her case has more information. She was a married mother of three who was involved in drugs at the time of her disappearance. Maybe this is her.

Katrina Sweaney - MP7785

Missing from Grants Pass, Oregon on March 5, 1998
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

I think we need a little more information to speculate but I think these three are good places to start.

 

[annemc2]

So, the PMI on 20 years could be the number of years people observed the skull on the desk, right? There certainly isn't a lack of missing girls in the Pacific Northwest before the 2000s

Reminds me of the chiropractor's bones, or Colorado cauldron Doe (what's up with all these people dragging random skulls home without contacting LE?).

Yeah, I would really love to know more about the guy who had it on his desk. Was he a former physician or mortician or something like that? Or was he a creepy serial killer who did nefarious deeds in his basement office and other creepy guys sometimes did creepy business with down there? Or maybe just one of those weird (and likely not-so-bright) people like the ones @Mrs. Badcrumble mentioned above?

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

With the man gone, we might not know how the skull came into his possession, making the recovery of additional bones and the identification process harder. Are there any ruleouts?

 

[Laughing]

We have a growing collection of mystery skulls:

TX - TX - Dallas Co, UnsFem UP1816, 50-90, skull in garage inside suitcase, May'02

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

We have a growing collection of mystery skulls:

TX - TX - Dallas Co, UnsFem UP1816, 50-90, skull in garage inside suitcase, May'02

Imagine when these people are identified and their loved ones learn that they've been mere props for some morbid weirdo... oof. Even more heartbreaking if they weren't handed over to LE when discovered and ended up seriously delaying the process of identifying the UID and solving the case (perhaps catching the perp if it was a crime). Then there's the whole case of a crime scene and the disturbing of such, causing critical evidence to be lost.. another oof.

 

[RememberingRyan]

So, the PMI on 20 years could be the number of years people observed the skull on the desk, right? There certainly isn't a lack of missing girls in the Pacific Northwest before the 2000s

Reminds me of the chiropractor's bones, or Colorado cauldron Doe (what's up with all these people dragging random skulls home without contacting LE?).

20 years could also be related to the kind of filling they identified in the tooth. There was a lot of evolution in dentistry between the early 80s and mid 2000s with all different kinds of composites - if the person had a specific kind of composite that was only briefly utilized, that could have narrowed down the PMI scope a lot.

 

[KrazyLady77]

Another possibility is Barbara Joy Gallagher from Douglas County Oregon..missing for over 20 years.. boyfriend ( who killed his wife and then himself years later) was the suspected killer. Barbara's body was never found, she resided in Azalea at the time of her disappearance, left a teen son motherless.

 

[Romulus]

Shawn "Heather" Maude missing from Roseburg since 2009: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

OR - OR - Shawn "Heather" Maude, 26, Roseburg, 1 July 2009

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

Some updates to Jane Doe's NamUs page:

Circumstances of recovery simply says

A skull and mandible were found in the personal possessions of a deceased individual. The skeletal remains were turned over to law enforcement.

and there's one exclusion:

MP7780
Rita Jolly
June 29th, 1973
Clackamas
OR

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Maybe they will be able to extract DNA? Poor victim.

 

[theshadow45]

Following.

 

[theshadow45]

This Jane Doe has been unidentified for two years this month.

 

[cheemsg]

@othram ?

 

[RickshawFan]

Katrina Sweaney was also from Grants Pass but her case has more information. She was a married mother of three who was involved in drugs at the time of her disappearance. Maybe this is her.

Katrina Sweaney - MP7785

Missing from Grants Pass, Oregon on March 5, 1998
The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

I think we need a little more information to speculate but I think these three are good places to start.

Snipped.

My mind is blown that this young woman is 25 and has 3 kids....

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LE has the lower jaw of this UID, as I understand? The lower jaw shape could be key to identifying her. The 3 women in @b741ma 's post all have distinctive jawlines.

I wonder if the "deceased individual" had lived anywhere except Roseburg, or was a mushroom picker, logger, angler... something that might tell us WHERE/HOW he got the skull.

 

[othram]

@othram ?

We will take a look!

 

[theshadow45]

Roseburg Jane Doe has been unidentified for 3 years today.