OR OR - Stephanie Warner, 43, Ruch, 4 July 2013 - #3

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  1. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    Here’s a very interesting article posted on the Karissa Fretwell thread about prosecuting a “no body” murder case. I certainly see some of these patterns in Stephanie’s case.

    Over the years, DiBiase said he's begun to see patterns emerge in no-body homicides.

    The perpetrator and victim tend to be in a domestic relationship. And that relationship is typically fraught with triggering events like an argument, infidelity or a custody dispute.

    Investigations frequently reveal evidence of a clean-up crime scene such as missing furniture, cleaned or missing carpet and missing personal items.

    Perpetrators also tend to move on with their lives quickly.

    Despite the difficulties in taking the cases to trial, prosecutors usually are successful in getting a conviction.

    More at the link:
    Salem woman, son still missing: Prosecuting a murder case without a body


    Karissa and Billy’s thread:
    Deceased/Not Found - OR- Karissa Alyn Fretwell, 25, William "Billy" Fretwell, Toddler, Salem, 13 May 2019 *ARREST*
     


  2. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    July 1–I was pleased to see that KOBI-5 local news just aired a story about Stephanie. If they post a link I’ll add it later. Sadly, there is nothing new. Lennie Ames is still the prime suspect although he has moved across the country. The owner of the Ruch Country Store spoke generically on camera. At least Stephanie is still remembered almost 6 years later.
     
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  3. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    Here’s the link to the KOBI story. A slight correction...Ames and company didn’t leave the area “soon” after Stephanie’s disappearance. They moved into her house within days and were there for two months...partying loudly enough for neighbors to hear. :mad:

    It’s deja vu to see the clip showing Lennie Ames with his son Jared Fournier doing the talking and making his infamous “we’re baffled” statement. Ames said it too. That’s what brought me to this thread in 2013.
    OR - Stephanie Warner, 43, Ruch, 4 Jul 2013 - #1
    That particular interview was never posted in full by KOBI, but it was chilling. I knew he was guilty immediately. I wait for the day there is enough evidence to bring Ames to justice, along with anyone who helped him destroy Stephanie.

    Video at link
    Police still searching for missing Ruch woman - KOBI-TV NBC5 / KOTI-TV NBC2
     
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    JnRyan Well-Known Member

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    Awfully short segment. But better than nothing. What's missing? No comment or statement from LE, that's what.

    Has anyone speculated on what Ames' motive was? Did he get her house/property or was she renting? Domestic situation that went bad?
     
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  5. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    Yes, it’s been thought that he was trying to get her house and property. She owned it. Apparently a piece of gold had been found and he and his son had done some excavating. Ames had some novel ideas about squatter’s rights as I recall. He was a paralegal IIRC. But it was sold at auction some years later.

    As we understand it, Stephanie was in the process of breaking up with him, and they fought after the parade in Ashland, so it could have been a combination of domestic violence and an attempt to seize her property. She had kicked Lennie’s son and his wife out after an altercation with the wife a couple of months earlier. They were living in Ashland, but immediately moved into Stephanie’s house with Ames and wife’s mother from Georgia. Sleazy bunch.
     
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    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    dotr Well-Known Member

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    Wondering if the people who know where to find Stephanie feel a twinge of guilt every time they hear fireworks?
    Are they reminded year after year of the day, July 4,that she "disappeared."?
    Thinking and hoping that some day relations will break up, guilt cracks one of them up, or while stupid drunk, somebody spills the beans.

    imo, speculation.
     
  8. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    I always wonder the same thing, dotr. Somehow, I’m not sure they have the “guilt gene.” I hoped for a breakthrough when Ames’ son and wife had an ugly breakup, but crickets. Stupid drunk or stoned is the best hope at this point. And of course, whoever finds out anything has to have some integrity and tell LE.
     
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    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    A favorite graphic designed by WSer @zwiebel. Stephanie loved butterflies...at least her FB page seemed to indicate that.

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    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    We had to go to Grants Pass this week and drove back by the scenic route to Jacksonville for lunch. We passed by Stephanie’s old home. The house is hidden by trees during the summer, so I couldn’t tell if anyone lives there. The barn looked a little forlorn and needing paint. :(

    Later, I checked online with the assessors website and it was sold for $257,000 at auction in Sept 2018 to Wells Fargo Bank as trustee for another company. I don’t see it listed for sale anywhere, so I think it’s vacant.

    Here’s what it says on Zillow:
    4/22/2019 Foreclosed $257,000
    The lender has taken ownership of this property through a foreclosure auction for the amount of $257,000. The lender may list it for sale as a foreclosure property in the future.
    9395 Highway 238, Jacksonville, OR 97530 | Zillow

    I found more detailed info about the auction, but I don’t want to link it because it includes the names of various family members of Stephanie and her deceased boyfriend MW. I thought he had deeded half the property to Stephanie, but MW was still listed as the owner until the auction.

    So sad to think that such a lovely home has been vacant all these years.
     
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    hotsytotsy Well-Known Member

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    Just stopping in to check on Stephanie
     
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    hotsytotsy Well-Known Member

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    Just stopping in to check on Stephanie :(
     
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    JerseyGirl Staff Member Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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    Stephanie Anne Warner was last seen on July 4, 2013, leaving a convenience store in Ashland, Oregon with her boyfriend, Lennie Ames. Stephanie had been seen earlier that day walking alongside a parade float she helped create for the 4th of July holiday event. In July of 2015, the Jackson County Sheriff's Office officially named Ames as the prime suspect in Stephanie's disappearance. Their statement also indicated they believe Stephanie is deceased, however, her body has not been found. Authorities did not release any further details in the case.

    Six years of Dateline's Missing in America: 134 still missing
     
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    Bree1950 Well-Known Member

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    I live in the area and I remember this every year on the Fourth. It’s so tragic they haven’t located her.
     
  15. Lilibet

    Lilibet Watching and Waiting

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    I live a block over from the parade route now and could catch glimpses of it this year from our deck...and thought about that last image of Stephanie walking next to the float in her pink shirt. :( Sad and mad. :mad:
     

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