Identified! PA - Chester Co., WhtMale 1280UMPA, 20-30, Nov'68 - Robert Corriveau

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  1. tamar

    tamar New Member

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    Please note: I included a pic of a marine in uniform (standing beside jeep) but he is not related to case, I just wanted to show full uniform)


    The Doe Network:
    Case File 1280UMPA
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1280umpa.html

    Unidentified White Male

    •The victim was discovered on November 18, 1968 near Downingtown, Chester County, Pennsylvania
    •Estimated Date of Death: 12-24 hours prior
    •Cause of Death: Single stab wound to the chest
    •State of Remains: Recognizable Face

    Vital Statistics
    •Estimated age: 20-30 years old
    •Approximate Height and Weight: 5'6"; 160 lbs.
    •Distinguishing Characteristics: Dark brown hair; green or hazel eyes.
    •Tattoos: On the right upper arm, a bulldog wearing a helmet with the letters USMC underneath. On the left forearm was a "bird in flight".
    •Clothing: Rust colored sweater, brown plaid pants, brown shoes with buckles. He was covered with a dark blue navy pea jacket.
    •DNA: Not Available
    •Fingerprints: Available

    Case History
    On Monday, November 18, 1968, at 10:55 a.m., a Pennsylvania State Trooper spotted a man in a semi sitting position on the side of the highway, about a mile east of the Downingtown interchange. The trooper stopped to check on the man and found that he was dead.
    There was no identification and no signs of a struggle.
    The FBI studied fingerprints in an effort to identify him, but he remains unidentified.
    Given the "bulldog" tattoo on the man's right upper arm, it is likely that he had once served in the Marines
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    Possible Match:

    The Doe Network:
    Case File 390DMWV
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/390dmwv.html

    James Elwood Brady
    Missing since September 1, 1965 from Logan, Logan County, West Virginia.
    Classification: Missing

    Vital Statistics
    Date Of Birth: January 17, 1930
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 25 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'7", 145 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White male. Brown hair; grey eyes.


    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Brady was last seen boarding a Trailways Bus in Logan, Logan County, West Virginia and Bluefield, Mercer County, Virginia on September 1, 1965.
    If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
    West Virginia State Police
    304-746-2100
    E-Mail

    NCIC Number:
    M-650880574
    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

    Source Information:
    West Virginia State Police

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  3. DeepThinker

    DeepThinker Find Kyron

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    I would say it's a match. The only difference I note is that the eyebrows in his military pic appear to be thicker, but it could just be the angle. Otherwise, I would say it's him. Or a relative.
     
  4. tamar

    tamar New Member

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    I've just noticed a discrepancy in age/dob on Doenetwork-- Charley Project lists his age at time of disappearance as 35... Oi!

    If he was 35, I suppose the age range is still close enough to warrant submission.
     
  5. tamar

    tamar New Member

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    here's one more
     

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  6. MargotKidder

    MargotKidder New Member

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    I think that they look identical. This would be amazing if it were not the same person. Good work. I hope that this is the man!!
     
  7. badhorsie

    badhorsie Mouth operational, brain elsewhere...

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    I agree, the resemblence is striking, even down to the ears. Please keep is updated if you submit it-good sleuthing:dance:
     
  8. Bewildered

    Bewildered New Member

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    Good job. I hope it is a match. It sure does look like the same person to me.
     
  9. capoly

    capoly New Member

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    imo It looks like James Elwood Brady is going home. Good eye & heart, tamar!
     
  10. distracted 1976

    distracted 1976 New Member

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    Looks very close to me as well! Please let us know how this turns out Tamar and thank you for your time and effort in trying to bring some of UID's home!
     
  11. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Meaghan at Charley Project makes that 10-year age error quite frequently. I just mentioned that a few days ago, and during the last week, she did it twice again on new casefiles. Since I have all 8000+ of her casefiles on a spreadsheet, I was able to catch all of those errors and notify her. But either I left this one off the list, or she didn't correct it. I am typing this message from my iPhone and don't have the list with me to be sure.

    On your possible match - great job, Tamar!!! It looks good to me.
     
  12. believe09

    believe09 Active Member

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    Looks great to me!!!!! Thank you very much for working it out!!!!
     
  13. tamar

    tamar New Member

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    Carl,

    Regarding DOB: the year is listed on both sites as 1930. Looks like Meagahn is better at math than Doenetwork is. :]

    Thanks for the replies everyone, I submitted this and heard back this morning from a Penn Trooper, he said Brady has been compared and is not a match (oddly enough there is another James Brady missing since 1967 out of SK). I asked how the comparison was disounted (fingerprints DNA or dentals) but haven't heard back yet. It looks like this UID was exhumed (or is in the process of being exhumed) for DNA testing recently.

    I have seen many mistakes made in dental and even fingerprint identifier comparisons-- human error is a vile underminer n'est-ce pas?

    And this one hit me so strongly as a match... maybe when DNA is complete this young, handsome Marine will finally find his way home.
     
  14. capoly

    capoly New Member

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    Go with your gut, tamar.....or in this case a number of guts. And please post what disqualified a match, hope it wasn't something as simple as the tattoos not being listed on James military records.
     
  15. CarlK90245

    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Yes, now that I am home and can see the list, I see that Meaghan got it right on this one. This was not one of the cases on which she made that error.
     
  16. Richard

    Richard Well-Known Member

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    Unidentified White Male
    Found November 18, 1968 near Downingtown, Chester County, Pennsylvania


    Vital Statistics

    Estimated Age: 20-30 years old
    Estimated height: 5'6"
    Estimated weight: 160 lbs
    Hair Color: dark brown
    Eye Color: green or hazel
    Tattoos: On the right upper arm, a bulldog wearing a helmet with the letters USMC underneath. On the left forearm was a "bird in flight", possibly a swallow.
    Clothing: Rust colored sweater, brown houndstooth-check pants, brown shoes with buckles. He was covered with a dark blue navy peacoat.
    Fingerprints: Available
    Distinguishing Characteristics: a healed bullet wound
    Estimated Time of Death: about 12 hours prior to being found, but no longer than 24 hours.
    Cause of death: stabbed once "through the heart" with a narrow round object that penetrated about four inches.
    DNA: unavailable at this time, however, the man was exhumed from his grave in Quaker Cemetery near Kennett Square and samples have been taken to start the DNA process.

    Case Details

    On Monday, November 18, 1968, at 10:55 a.m., a Pennsylvania State Trooper, while on a routine Turnpike patrol, spotted a man in a semi-sitting position on the side of the highway, about a mile east of the Downingtown interchange. The trooper stopped to check on the man and found that he was dead.

    There was no identification on the fully-clothed body and no signs of a struggle.

    The FBI studied fingerprints in an effort to identify him, but he remains unidentified. Given the "bulldog" tattoo on the man's right upper arm, it is likely that he had once served in the Marines.

    If you have any information about this case, please contact:

    Pennsylvania State Police
    Troop J - Avondale
    Tpr Christopher Winesburg or Cpl Patrick Quiqley
    Phone: 610-268-2022
    Fax: 610-268-3845


    Sources
    Pennsylvania State Police
    NewspaperArchive.com
    Lebanon Daily News
    Simpson's Leader Times
    Daily News (Huntingdon & Mount Union)
    Philadelphia Inquirer
    Pennsylvania Missing Persons

    LINK (note contains morgue photos)

    http://www.pennsylvaniamissing.com/1280umpa11181968.html
     
  17. shadowangel

    shadowangel Black cats consider me unlucky.

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    The swallow tattoo is a staple of Naval tradition, originating with the British Navy and later adopted by members of the US Navy. According to legend, the swallow was the first land bird spotted by returning ships; a swallow tattoo represents lengthy sea voyages, each tattoo indicating at least 5,000 nautical miles travelled.

    Strange that, if this person were a member of the US military, his prints weren't on file.
     
  18. shadowangel

    shadowangel Black cats consider me unlucky.

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    A narrow, round object penetrating 4 inches... An ice pick?
     
  19. Bluecat

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    Could have been a screwdriver, I'm thinking. Or an awl used for putting holes in leather like belts.

    Fingerprint records would have been paper back then, so their task would have been significant given that it was wartime and the draft was on. I hope they're finally able to identify him.
     
  20. shadowangel

    shadowangel Black cats consider me unlucky.

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    "Semi-sitting position" seems an odd description. I can only assume that this was the position in which he died, as there was no sign of a struggle and he was "covered" with a pea coat (not wearing it). Although, I suppose he could have been dumped at the location and the coat placed over him.
     
  21. Richard

    Richard Well-Known Member

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    This young man was very likely a US military Veteran - either a Marine or a Sailor who had been wounded in the VietNam War. He appears to be quite young. Although the file write-up states his age between 20 and 30, I think it is likely in his early 20's.

    The healed bullet wound might indicate that he had been in a Naval Hospital, perhaps Bethesda, Portsmouth, or Balboa Naval Hospitals, as those were the main ones. I wonder if x-rays were taken of the wound? If a bone had been broken, perhaps it could be compared with x-rays taken of wounded servicemen who were treated at one of the above hospitals.

    His haircut is within 1968 regulations for the Navy, but a bit long for Marine Corps standards. He may have been recently discharged and on his way home when he was murdered.

    The Navy Pea Coat could indicate that he was a Navy man, although it is also possible that he was a Marine who purchased the coat at a Navy exchange or uniform shop - or that he was borrowing the coat from a friend for the cold weather trip he was on. Marines do not and did not wear Pea Coats as part of their uniform.

    The USMC tattoo means either that he was a Marine or possibly that he was a Navy Medical Corpsman who had served with the Marines in combat. US Navy Corpsmen are the "medics" for the Marine Corps.

    If he was still on active duty when he died, he would be carried on the books today as a "deserter", since he was never identified. If he had been discharged, the Navy or Marine Corps would not have been looking for him. Either way, his records should be on file at the St. Louis Military Personnel Records Center.

    Only Officers had their fingerprints on file in 1968. Enlisted men might be fingerprinted for work in high security jobs, but those fingerprint cards would not necessarily be in their military personnel records.

    The 4 inch deep puncture wound that killed him could have come from an icepick or screwdriver. It could also have come from a Marlin Spike. That is a round pointed spike used by sailors to work ropes and untie knots. Often a Marlinspike is attatched to a sailor's folder knife, and they are usually 3 to 4 inches in length, and about a quarter inch in diameter.

    It is also possible that he was killed with a "shiv" made from a sharpened nail. These are often found in prisons and carried by convicts.

    A spike type bayonet could also have been the weapon, as could a sharpened pencil.

    I wonder if this young man might have been traveling home for the Thanksgiving holiday. He was dressed nicely and well groomed. Could he have been hitch hiking? Perhaps he was driving and picked up a hitch hiker.

    He never made it home.
     

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