Thanks for the info, especially with your EMS background -- fubar is right. The part about 10 stab wounds in the back of her neck -- how did she manage that? Maybe one stab -- still IMO not likely -- but 10 stabs? Nope. I could easily see someone else stabbing her there when she turned her back to him/her. Put one hand over her mouth and stab her in the back of her neck. That would disable her from the get-go, and the rest would have been easier and quicker, seems to me. I would also think that if it were suicide she possibly may have thought about a friend or relative being the first non-LE/EMS person to see her? Would she want them to see her in a pool of blood and all hacked-up? And this: Welcome to Websleuths, fusion28 !!