GUILTY PA - Husband charged in cyanide poisoning death of Dr. Autumn Klein

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  1. bourne

    bourne "The truth shall set you free." ~JUSTICE FOR REBEC

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    Actually no, it depends on WHEN he decided to do away with his wife.

    For instance -- and this seems to me to be true based on the rapidity with which he ordered the cyanide from his own lab and then within 2 days his wife was poisoned -- that he had NOT decided on killing his wife until very recently, perhaps even within a few days to a week of the actual poisoning episode. So it could very well be that he and his wife BOTH had wanted a child the past year or so, and that it was not until very recently that he either discovered his wife might have been cheating on him, or he finally decided to do away with her because of her lies or that she disobeyed him or whatever he deemed he could no longer accept. In other words, they could have both wanted a child together very badly until recently when things came to a head between them, when his controlling manners and suspicions of her out-of-town trips became too much for him to bear and he decided enough was enough and she had to go.

    So again, no, the assumption you've made that because he killed her it absolutely meant he never wanted a second biological child with her may in fact be false.
     


  2. colette

    colette Well-Known Member

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    He may have been thinking about killing his wife for some time. I think he sped the process up because he did not want to go to that conference for some reason. He still could have killed her even after she got pregnant. He would have to use a different ruse to get her to drink the stuff or just put it in her food. Maybe he wanted to kill her before she filled for divorce.
     
  3. LambChop

    LambChop Former Member

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    Or if he anticipated possibly getting caught he'd be on the hook for two deaths instead of one. jmo
     
  4. LynnM

    LynnM New Member

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  5. Aristotle

    Aristotle New Member

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    His defense:

    1.) It was suicide. Not a chance. Baby plans, happy life, boyfriend plans even.
    2.) The hospital tainted the blood. No, other symptoms were there, etc.
    3.) creatine converts to cyanide. Not possible in these doses.
    4.) she did it to herself, thinking the glass vials (cyanide he'd brought home for
    Purposes of work..can you believe this one) contained sugary flavoring. No way.
    5.) problems at the lab when the cyanide was briefly in a drawer.
    A.) casual mixup of drugs...impossible.
    B.) someone wanted wife dead. No.
    C.) someone wanted to frame him...I think the only likely defense.
    D.) someone aimed to murder him in the lab, but he took the stuff home instead.

    Honestly, I can't see why he bothers, except that he has little to lose. I have heard that in these trials the typical defense is to prove reasonable doubt by implying someone else. This is why. I hope the lab assistants are not put through too much. Since his own reputation rests on the people he hires, I cannot believe he could try to blame them. So I really wonder why his lawyer feels so confident. Probably: he is too nice to do something dastardly. Which is where I originally tuned in. I think the whole second child thing would trump a divorce for her (she could get pregnant, then divorce. They'd just been to Puerto Rico and maybe she thought they were going to give it a last try). What concerns me more is what he thought he was doing to the daughter he had. Outrageous! Without a mother and father now, as well as a history..a recollection of sirens, flashing lights, trauma of nauseous mother, hospital emergency and a lifelong stigma as well as betrayal.
     
  6. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    Per "male friend's" statements, conferences is where she was meeting up with this "male friend."
    It appears hubby go suspicious and started following her these conferences. Maybe he really decided to make sure she couldn't meet up with the "male friend."
     
  7. colette

    colette Well-Known Member

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    There was a hearing about custody of the daughter. The grandparents will maintain custody.

    Ferrante's adult son from a previous relationship, Michael Ferrante, of Boston, and his wife sought to care for the girl. But Cashman ruled the Ferrantes can't claim custody under Pennsylvania law, which restricts such claims to parents, grandparents or those who have acted as a child's "stand-in" parents.


    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_...t-to-remain-with-victims-parents-judge-rules/
     
  8. Leomoon80

    Leomoon80 Well-Known Member

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    That's a shame that the grandparents age of 78 or 79 isn't taken into account? After all the child is only 6. Maybe they could share custody with the younger man and his wife. There even may be children to play with.
     
  9. time

    time New Member

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    I agree, I'm sure they love her dearly but what's the future. And, the brother IS a half brother as well as the sister.
     
  10. colette

    colette Well-Known Member

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    The child may not really know her half brother. The grandparents were the ones who watched her when the couple went to conferences. The grandparents kept her after the murder, they know and love her. Things may change over time, but right now I agree with the court.
     
  11. colette

    colette Well-Known Member

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    OK here is the real reason for the child staying with the grandparent, she is a witness...

    Ferrante had tried to have his sister, who lives in Florida, care for the couple's daughter, Cianna, before a judge last month granted temporary custody to the parents of Ferrante's dead wife, Dr. Autumn Klein.

    Prosecutors have said the girl is a witness in the case, and don't want Ferrante to have contact with her.


    http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Judge-closes-custody-hearing-in-Pa-poisoning-case-4714023.php

    Another article about custody with more detail about the relationships.

    http://www.post-gazette.com/stories...doctor-maintain-custody-of-grandchild-698530/
     
  12. colette

    colette Well-Known Member

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  13. southernnana

    southernnana New Member

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    Good to hear that Grandmother is petitioning the court for spousal support

    from Ferrante !! I certainly hope she is successful. I wonder if their little girl

    will receive 24-hr protection until the trial is over.
     
  14. corq

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    Looks like his assets were frozen, in which case he can claim to be destitute, for getting the services of the public defender:
    http://www.post-gazette.com/stories...-researcher-accused-of-poisoning-wife-698191/

    If found guilty, I might foresee him claiming inadequate counsel at a later appeal, but the frozen assets would be the immediate reason why he has a PD.
     
  15. colette

    colette Well-Known Member

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    Not all accounts are frozen, he has at least $280,00 to start with and can revisit the issue with the judge for more money later if needed. He will get the money he needs and does not have a public defender. (from the article you linked and also from the one I linked)
     
  16. Leomoon80

    Leomoon80 Well-Known Member

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    Money is probably the LAST thing I'd be thinking of when it came to my daughter or granddaughter. I'm sure they have plenty to share already with her. She's only 6 and doesn't require much. Sounds like vindictiveness moreso. That or just plain $$$/

    The Kennedy plane crash brought out the same mentality. Rich lawyers the parents of the dead Kennedy wife, and her sister sued for millions and took a settlement of course. I suppose they saw the loss of their daughters as a business deal gone bad. Someone had to pay. That's always the way today, (all in imo of course :) )
    :(
     
  17. colette

    colette Well-Known Member

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    We don't know whether the grandparents are wealthy or not. Perhaps the child goes to expensive private school. Maybe it is a way to get back at Ferrante, he killed their daughter. Then again he has money, it's his child, let him pay.

    The couple held joint accounts totaling just under $900,000, while Mr. Ferrante holds several accounts totaling about $2.5 million.
     
  18. Leomoon80

    Leomoon80 Well-Known Member

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    Just for the record. I lived for over 30 years and know where they live and it's an exclusive area for the super rich in Baltimore's suburbs.

    Just for the record, (nothing else), to each their own opinion about money and suing people for it. :)

    I wish the child well, and she learns the proper values in life. That would be nice to know too. More important I suppose to me then wealth or proving anything or revenge. Just my way (imo),
     
  19. jjenny

    jjenny Well-Known Member

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    Ferrante is the child's father. Therefore has to pay child support. So I don't follow the logic at all.
     
  20. Leomoon80

    Leomoon80 Well-Known Member

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    just my own musing, rambling nothing more. The logic however, may evade, but it has something to do with thinking of money at a time like this, and nothing more.

    Something to do with emotions over cold hard cash. Unless one needed welfare of course, or practical help with their child.

    Just my own logic or thoughts, nothing more. :) I wasn't looking for any kind of agreement, but I do know the area, and it's a rich enclave in anyone's estimation in old Baltimore. The "just getting by" aren't living there or owning homes there.
     

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