GUILTY PA - Linda Stoltzfoos, 18, murdered, Bird-in-Hand, Lancaster County, 21 June 2020 *arrest* #4

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  1. KathiK

    KathiK Active Member

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    I watched the 11am new conference today in it's entirety. One of the reporters made a statement that some of the people local to the area saw JS at the sight and wanted to know if he led the police to it. The DA would not comment on the statement. It also makes me wonder if the wooded area was reached from the other side of the railroad tracks. There is a road off of Gap Road called Walker Lane that appears to lead up to the woods and has a few homes along it.
     


  2. Angels Advocate

    Angels Advocate Well-Known Member

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    I think JS took her there where someone was waiting. Then he left.
    I also think someone else is involved. And this fits with the idea that JS drove her to the Welsh Mountains and left her with someone - IIRC he only had two hours - and then went and cleaned up his car and all the other things. A second perpetrator (at least) is the only thing that makes sense to me.
     
  3. LadyL

    LadyL Well-Known Member

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    [bbm]
    he moved her!!!
     
  4. GizzardMan

    GizzardMan Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if the DA offered some type of immunity or deal in exchange for the location of the remains.
     
  5. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    I'm going to let a Mod know that she was found - as I see this thread is still in the "Missing" forum....
     
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  6. Darling136

    Darling136 Forum Coordinator Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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    Thanks and this is fine as i see the Information is not formally confirmed, however there are strong indications.

    I think the next formal information (maybe even today) will contain the official confirmation and then we will go with the process.
     
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  7. imstilla.grandma

    imstilla.grandma Believer of Miracles

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    “The dress, bonnet, and shoes [were] consistent with what Linda was wearing on the date of her disappearance,” Adams said.

    Investigators discovered the remains wrapped in tarp that was buried up to 42 inches below ground.

    The autopsy to determine cause and manner of death is scheduled for April 23. Coroner Dr. Stephen Diamantoni said he expected the cause and manner of death to be determined quickly—likely within a day. Definitive DNA identification of the body could take longer.

    Because of decomposition any clues left would likely be left on the bones, according to forensic experts.

    “You could get some marks from a bullet, you could get marks from a knife, you could get marks from compression, from thumps. These are the things that they’re probably looking at at this point,” said Robert Furey, a forensic entomologist and Dauphin County deputy coroner, as well as a professor of integrative sciences at Harrisburg University.

    “More often than not there will be forensic evidence with that body and through that autopsy, which will be and should be used against the criminal defendant at a criminal homicide prosecution,” said Chris Ferro, criminal defense attorney at York-based Ferro Law Firm.
    Stoltzfoos autopsy could bolster or hurt case against Justo Smoker | fox43.com


    According to Adams:

    • The remains were recovered Wednesday in Gap behind the previous place of employment of Justo Smoker, the man charged with her homicide and kidnapping.
    • An autopsy is scheduled for Friday to help confirm the identity and determine the cause and manner of death, but a preliminary review indicates the remains are those of a female of a relevant age.
    • Investigators also found a dress, bonnet and shoes consistent with the clothing worn by Stoltzfoos on the day she disappeared.
    • Police believe Smoker killed Stoltzfoos within hours of allegedly kidnapping her on June 21 and buried her behind a business on Harvest Drive in Ronks, where investigators found her stockings and bra. It’s believed that Smoker then moved the body several days later.
    The Stoltzfoos family was notified and taken to the scene of the discovery, Adams said, in an effort to grant some closure.
    DA holds news conference about missing Amish teen in Pennsylvania
     
  8. Lusitana

    Lusitana Well-Known Member

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    I also think someone else was involved somehow.
     
  9. Trackergd

    Trackergd Verified SAR Manager and Tracker - Retired

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    Hoping for more details not only the exact location, but an analysis of how she was buried well enough and deep enough to avoid detection. I am wondering if JS prepared the burial site in advance, possibly working at lunch time or after work for days, then moving and covering the remains. The one long period at Harvest Road must have been the digging for the initial burial site.
     
  10. Rosiebones

    Rosiebones Well-Known Member

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    If he did spend a good deal of time preparing a burial site deep enough to escape detection why didn't he put her there from the beginning? If it was prepared in advance, why put her somewhere else and then move her to this place? Seems to me that doing it that way increases the likelihood of discovery. MOO MOO MOO
     
  11. K9Enzo

    K9Enzo Well-Known Member

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    I'm relieved Linda Stoltzfoos was recovered and will be returned to her family. I have followed this case, but never commented on it. It's horrifying when you think of how scared she must have been.

    IMO, I don't think the suspect had this kidnapping & murder carefully planned. He left evidence of her personal belongings buried at one location, moved and buried her body to a secondary location. To me this appears to be panic. I think he acted alone. This was his own demented actions.

    Court documents: Justo Smoker was at Linda Stoltzfoos' original burial location multiple times

    Police said video surveillance and cellphone records show Smoker at the Ronks location seven times between June 22 and June 27. Three of those times were on June 23, police said, which was two days after Stoltzfoos was last seen.
     
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    Lancaster County coroner confirms the remains found in eastern Lancaster County are those of Linda Stoltzfoos, 18. The coroner said the cause of death was asphyxia caused by strangulation with a knife wound to the neck as a contributing factor

    The coroner was able to identify the remains as that of Stoltzfoos via dental records, and noted that the cause and manner of death were difficult to determine because of the effects of decomposition over time.

    Lancaster County Coroner rules asphyxia, strangulation as cause of death for Linda Stoltzfoos | fox43.com
     
  13. Maryland Oracle

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    Linda was tall, 5'10" if memory serves which is 4" taller than Smoker.

    How is it possible for him to move her body to a location that's really difficult to access without help?
     
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    K9Enzo Well-Known Member

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    IMO, determination and being motivated by not getting caught. I imagine he had to stomach through what he saw when he came back to move her. IIRC she was recovered in a tarp, he probably got his car as close as possible, then dragged her in the tarp.

    Although she was taller, I imagine she still weighed considerably less than him. She probably wasn't any match to his strength when he kidnapped her. Although I do acknowledge it's not easy to handle 100 + pounds of dead weight (absolutely no pun intended). IMO
     
  16. mtowntra1

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    I wonder that too.!
     
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  17. janewall

    janewall Well-Known Member

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    She was tall, but JS is strong, muscular in appearance, worked in heavy industry, and through his wrestling experience has rather precise knowledge of how the human body can be manipulated/handled.

    I agree that it would have been difficult, but I think he has the physical ability to manage a large inert bundle, even through challenging terrain.
     
  18. Hereshecomes75

    Hereshecomes75 Well-Known Member

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    Ugh, what a monster. I imagine there are no security cameras at Harvest Rd.
     
  19. YaYa_521

    YaYa_521 Forum Coordinator Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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    :( Rest peacefully, sweet girl. My condolences go out to Linda's loved ones and all who have shown so much care and concern throughout this ordeal.
     
  20. Rosegold68

    Rosegold68 Well-Known Member

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    I mentioned Walker lane further back I. The thread. The google earth aerial view I have shows grassland from the end of that lane right to the edge of the railroad track, has tracks.... it leads nowhere so why would anyone drive over to that point? It’s also on the edge of the woodland and near the square box areas ( also discussed upthread) which look like culverts but can’t actually see what they are

    google brought up ‘ash pits’ but railroad looks too modern to have those. There’s one box like , square area further up but the one I initially saw is just down from his workplace perimeter and there’s one on each side of the tracks
     

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