PA - Shane Montgomery, 21, Philadelphia, 27 Nov 2014 #5

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  1. TMAN2014

    TMAN2014 Well-Known Member

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    So, I guess that answers my question. No matter what LE determines, there are always going to be questions for some people.
     
  2. ChuckMaureen

    ChuckMaureen Well-Known Member

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    Note the position of the yellow question mark I placed in the river behind the Manayunk Brewery to posit/query :'is Shane here' ... what freaks me is that I pieced together and uploaded that image December 14/15 ... and two weeks later Shane is recovered from that very spot ...
     
  3. Jillybean78

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    Do you think the video of Shane will ever be released? I feel bad asking this question with him just being found, but it may let us have our perception of his condition while entering the parking lot. I know there where conflicting comments of him "walking" vs "stumbling"..
     
  4. charminglane

    charminglane Helcat!

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    This is out there, but it is a legitimate question.
    Are Shane and his friends into parkour? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=parkour

    These areas around the canal and river are ripe for crazy body movements. In a rash decision, a wrong move can result in disaster.

    I'm so outside the box, I'm shrink wrap. Don't laugh!
     
  5. ParentNJ

    ParentNJ New Member

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    Unless they suspect foul play I don't think any other information will be released. IMO
     
  6. Ski1987

    Ski1987 Member

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    I think it's possible that we will never know for sure. However, if the autopsy rules a drowning, and cannot find any evidence of foul play, then I will accept that it was either suicide or accident. I will have no problem admitting that I was wrong. (Probably because I have been wrong my whole life. LOL.) I seriously find it liberating to admit when your wrong...therapeutic in a way. I have also found that it gets easier the more you do it.
     
  7. takeittothebank

    takeittothebank New Member

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    This actually goes with what I was saying a few times before Shane was found. If Shane was in that lot with friends during daylight, an accident in from that parking lot seems like it's easier to happen. Showing off to friends, jumping around, pranking, being risky
     
  8. charminglane

    charminglane Helcat!

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    Exactly. To be wrong in this situation is actually better. I would hope that no one physically hurt Shane to cause his death.
     
  9. Ski1987

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    I am saying this in the most sincere and emphatic manner as possible. You are one cool person. I have you find all the best that life has to offer.
     
  10. takeittothebank

    takeittothebank New Member

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    Yea. You are right. The speculation is more people wanting to understand and wanting answers. It's not about wanting to be right. If something does not make sense to you, you should always question it. Anyone in this thread that has ever at one point believed in foul play has also tried to, either in their head or in posts, tried to put pieces together for an accident theory and tried to look at things from every angle and see what possibly could have happened. I dont think anyone truly cares about being right or wrong when we're talking about a life and tragedy, we just want answers and want to understand.
     
  11. charminglane

    charminglane Helcat!

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    :blushing:
    Back at ya!
     
  12. Ski1987

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    Very eloquently put Takeit
     
  13. ParentNJ

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  14. takeittothebank

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    The Philadelphia medical examiner's office has ruled Shane Montgomery's death accidental, his uncle said Sunday.

    Montgomery's cause of death will be further specified on his death certificate, which the family will receive Monday, Verbrugghe said.

    Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/b...ery_not_yet_released.html#tXhaUOiedAljzzHQ.99


    I assume "accidental" means they just found evidence of drowning and no visible signs of foul play to his body. Unfortunately it doesnt tell us exactly what happened.
     
  15. ChuckMaureen

    ChuckMaureen Well-Known Member

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    MOD: ACCIDENTAL.

    "Montgomery's cause of death will be further specified on his death certificate, which the family will receive Monday, Verbrugghe said."
     
  16. ChuckMaureen

    ChuckMaureen Well-Known Member

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    During one of the earlier news videos intermixed with numerous cutaways to various scenes, one scene is a closeup of two investigators attempting to ascertain how Shane may have entered the river. One investigator makes a motion using both his arms to portray a quick 'leap' motion. Also, what we have never been told is what did the FBI find that caused them to believe Shane was in the water. I believe they found something close(r) to the canal.
     
  17. takeittothebank

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    I think their belief that he was in the water, prior to the keys discovery, was a combination of no witnesses coming forward and surveillance placing him in the lot [and stumbling] and not seeing him on other surveillance. I think it was as simple as that rather than there being some unreleased clue that was found. JMO

    But like I was hinting at in my last post, just because they found evidence of drowning [I assume that is what evidence they found] doesnt necessarily mean accident. It doesnt rule out suicide for example
     
  18. ChuckMaureen

    ChuckMaureen Well-Known Member

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    This is Dec 10/11, likely when Shane was discovered on video? but they never mention the reasoning:

    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/vide...mery-Case-Leads-Crews-Back-to-Water/285415501
     
  19. takeittothebank

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  20. Jonesy124

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    I hope we get more information on Monday or DetPac or Kevin can shed some light. Toxicology reports if they were able to even do them would take a bit.
     

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