PA PA - Sugarloaf Twp, WhtFem Skeletal 127UFPA, 34-47, near strip mine, Dec'94

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  1. webrocket

    webrocket New Member

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    found this UID which was entered into Namus today, although it looks like she was in the Doe Network already. I did not see this UID on WS.

    skeletal remains of a white woman, age 34-47 were found on Dec 20, 1994, in Sugarloaf Twp., Luzerne County, PA. body appears to have been dumped on the side of the highway down a hillside.

    the UID was estimated to be 5'3" and had brown hair.

    https://identifyus.org/cases/8919

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/127ufpa.html

    there is a bust depicting a face.
     
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    I goofed. Deborah was last seen in July 1992, not January as I originally posted.
     
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    I had to chuckle a bit at the UID's shirt. " Kiss my a$$, I'm on vacation " LOL
     
  6. webrocket

    webrocket New Member

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    is anyone able to put the images side by side? try as I might I can never get it right.
     
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    CarlK90245 UID Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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  8. marycarney

    marycarney Inactive

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    The resemblance is startling!
     
  9. TxJan1971

    TxJan1971 Well-Known Member

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    There is a missing woman from Raleigh, NC, Parley Ann Pate who was 34 when she was last seen February 9, 1993.

    There is a height difference as Parley Ann was reported to be 5'7" and the approx. height of the UID is 5'1" - 5'4". Parley also had brown hair and it is reported that she was involved with drugs & prostitution. No dental information available on Parley, but if she was doing drugs then she could have lost some teeth depending on her drug(s) of choice. The UID had 10 teeth missing.

    I found a listing for her in the NC Dept. of Correction Offender Public Information site. She had several offenses in September of 1992 with a conviction date of November 1992. It appears she is currently inactive.

    I just thought there was a good facial resemblance to the UID, even though the height is off.

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/pate_parley.html

    http://webapps6.doc.state.nc.us/opi/viewoffender.do?method=view&offenderID=0314235&searchLastName=Pate&searchFirstName=Parley&listurl=pagelistoffendersearchresults&listpage=1
     
  10. webrocket

    webrocket New Member

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    could someone help me with the clothing?

    it looks like the UID had a pair of women's size 8 underwear and there was a boy's size 6 sneaker.

    how large would that make her if she was wearing size 8 underwear? also, does anyone know what a boy's size 6 sneaker would translate to in an adult foot?
     
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    marycarney Inactive

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    I weigh nearly 200# @ 5'2" and wear size 8.

    PS - If I find this posted elsewhere - you're all going DOWN!!!!! :)
     
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    if that's the case then this UID was fairly large, which could explain both the knee and back problems mentioned on the DN page.
     
  13. TxJan1971

    TxJan1971 Well-Known Member

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    Here's a conversion chart I found. It appears this converts to a size 7 woman's shoe.

    http://aglobalworld.com/international-conversions/shoe-size-conversion.php
     
  14. webrocket

    webrocket New Member

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    interesting Wikipedia entry for the brand of sneakers, British Knights:

    British Knights - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    "British Knights footwear and apparel was popular in the U.S., Canada, UK, Europe and Australia during the early 1990s, particularly within the hip hop scene."
     
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    CCJD Active Member

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    Early news articles (you need a subscription to access them) stated that she had a medium build. Sounds about right..I'm between 5'4" & 5'5", weigh about 122 lbs and wear a size 7 or 8.

    http://news.google.com/archivesearc...tal+AND+medium&btnG=Search+Archives&scoring=a

    WOMAN'S IMAGE CREATED FROM SKULL TV SHOW TO HIGHLIGHT …
    [SIZE=-1]Pay-Per-View - Morning Call - ProQuest Archiver[SIZE=-1] - Mar 6, 1996[/SIZE]
    [/SIZE][SIZE=-1] The woman's skeletal remains found in the woods near West Hazleton in ... way She was a white woman 5foot1 to 5foot4 of medium build between 34 and 47 years old ... a waterfilled strip mine in Sugarloaf Township Luzerne County about two ...



    [/SIZE]
     
  16. webrocket

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    I was beginning to think the UID was closer to 200.

    Then Deborah is still a contender then. she was about 5'4"-5'5" and weighed 135.
     
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    Pants/dresses are sized different than women's panties. Probably someone who wears a size 7 or 8 dress would wear a size 5 or 6 underwear. Women's underwear is usually sized 4 (XS), 5 (S), 6 (M), 7 (L), and 8 (XL). IMHO someone who was 5'4" or 5'5" and 135lbs would probably not wear a size 8 panties unless that was absolutely the only one available.
     
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    I realized I never submitted this one so I fired off an email to Thomas McAndrew with the State of Pennsylvania. (contact person in Namus link for UID)
     
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    got a response already:

    Thanks for your e-mail. Deborah OVERBAUGH has already been ruled out by dental records. Keep looking!

    at least Mr. McAndrew responded and appreciated the suggestion.
     
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    I took a look at this old thread.

    Any thoughts on this possible match?

    The MP is Hispanic but is of the correct height and had known problems with her left knee which matches the UID. Timing is not bad either. Listed as missing from Bridgeton, NJ on April 4, 1990 although not reported missing by her family for two and a half years. Frances was younger than the estimated age of the UID by a few years.

    I don't put any stock in the clothing she was last seen in, although the family said she was a casual dresser and the UID was casually dressed.

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/morales_frances.html
    http://doenetwork.org/cases/340dfnj.html

    Dentals are available for both the UID and Frances who had a noticeable gap between some of her teeth.
     

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