PA PA - Wht/Hisp, Male, 30-50 yo, 5'3"-5'10", Near West Manchester Mall, Nov 2013

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    Gardener1850 Well-Known Member

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    http://fox43.com/2016/10/12/officia...ns-found-in-west-manchester-township-in-2013/
     
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    Tried researching the boxer brand name but, of course, they are sold pretty much everywhere (walmart, amazon, ebay, overstock etc.)
     
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    Those sketches look nothing alike.
     
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    I thought the same thing.
     
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    They do look like 2 different men and they don't even look like they could be related, let alone resemble each other! I guess the 2 distinctive things about this man would be his robust/muscular build and nose deformity.
     
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    Namus link for this (note the pictures from above are not included):

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12047

    As of now, rule-outs are:

    Benjamin Brubaker 1974 Ohio
    Andrew Chapman 1974 Ohio
    Gene Lysle 1964 Ohio
    Michael McLaughlin 1964 Virginia
    Luis Montes 1974 North Carolina
    John Morris 1969 Maryland
    John Skirta 1958 Florida
    Lennid Taku Unknown Florida
    Travis Taylor 1975 Virginia
    Anthony Urciuoli 1969 New York

    The post-mortem interval is estimated at 3 years; here are some missing white males in PA from 2011 and earlier:

    https://lostandfound.revealnews.org...&end_date=12/31/2011&unidentifiedperson=12047
     
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    Thank you, Richrd. Isotope results are always so interesting. From the article:

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    Based on when this man would have grown up, 35-50 (or earlier) years ago, much of the red areas had very few Hispanics. It is different today with many working in poultry processing, farming, and other industries in Alabama, Georgia, N. Florida, Mississppi and other red areas. The one exception I see is Texas. The areas of Central, South Central, and Eastern Texas have had Hispanics in significant amounts for generations. I wouldn’t be surprised if this UID was from Texas and moved to Pennsylvania around a decade prior to his death. The fact that the areas in yellow (where he may have lived in the decade before his death) include Pennsylvania feels important to me.
     
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    Dec 6 2018
    Clay model unveiled in homicide cold case
    "YORK, Pa. (WHTM) - The York County district attorney's office has unveiled a clay sculpture depicting what an unknown man may have looked like years before his skeletal remains were discovered in West Manchester Township in 2013."

    "The sculpture was crafted by forensic specialists at Penn State University."

    "He has a strong jawline and chin, and that's something that people would remember if they've seen it," forensic artist Jenny Kenyon said."

    "Investigators believe the man was between 35 to 39 years old, about 5'5 to 5'8 tall, and either white or Hispanic. He likely had a muscular build and several missing teeth."
     
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    The clay model of an unidentified murder victim created by Penn State ADRI research associate, Jenny Kenyon.

    IMAGE: Ty Lohr, The York Daily Record
    Jan 7 2019
    Cold-case investigation warms up with help from forensic artist | Penn State University
    "In this case, Kenyon said the individual had a very prominent, strong jaw that dictated much of the facial muscle recreation. Isotope testing of the remains, which revealed the man was most likely Hispanic-American, also helped to steer the reconstruction.

    “We fully understand that this is a mixture of art and science, which means the model is most likely not 100 percent accurate,” Krout said. “But Jenny’s work is excellent, and we believe that we have a model that can hopefully lead to someone out there recognizing this face and help us to identify the victim.”

    In addition to the facial reconstruction, Krout said the department is working with the University of Arizona on carbon dating the remains to determine the birth year of the victim and he is confident that there is enough DNA from the remains that can be used. The reconstruction, as well as sketches of the victim, will be entered into the National Missing and Unidentified Persons Systems to aid the investigation.

    “In all forensic reconstruction we are dealing with averages, whether it be tissue-depth averages or the size and shape of the ears and nose,” Kenyon said. “But what we are trying to do is to get close enough to spark that recall and recognition of that person. That is what success looks like, but the hardest part is knowing that I can be right and nobody is watching the television at the key moment.”

    Anyone with information on this case is encouraged to contact the West Manchester Township Police at 717-792-9514."
     
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