Pandemonium in Austrailia

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  1. badhorsie

    badhorsie Mouth operational, brain elsewhere...

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    Julia Gillard almost attacked by angry indigenous people. Video and photos at link
     
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  3. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    I suspect the protesters' quarrel was more with the opposition leader, who had been mouthing off against the Tent Embassy and generally disrespecting other Aborigine issues, than with the PM.
     
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    Herding Cats New Member

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    You know, something strange is happening all over the globe. I understand Egypt, Libya, and other middle eastern countries rebelling, but the row with Prince Charles and Camilla, and now this...well, something just seems to be brewing right under the surface over the entire globe.

    I feel bad for Gillard; she looks so scared.

    Best-
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  5. badhorsie

    badhorsie Mouth operational, brain elsewhere...

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    I was just thinking that as I was headed towards this thread. The world seems to be in meltdown
     
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    Maybe it's the alignment of the stars, but I'd sooner blame a world-wide recession.
     
  7. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    The world has long been calamitous.
     
  8. Gardenlady

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    Being the socialist I am, I'm hoping the rumblings are the beginning of an uprising amongst the marginalized, the working class, the 99%.... Whatever name you want to give all us poor schleps hoping for a better world :). If I were still in my young new agey days, I'd say it was a global "awakening". Now I just think everyone is maybe, finally, pissed off enough to fight for some change.

    Ah well, I can still be hopelessly idealistic while pushing 40, can't I? ;)

    But on the topic... I can't blame the Indigenous peoples of the world for being angry. There have been so many wrongs done, over so many years, against them. I do have sympathy for those who feel threatened too, though. I want change, but any hint of violence is a big turn off for me.

    I think the best that the PM and opposition leader can do is LISTEN, and understand the anger, and find out what the group's grievances and specific goals are. Then work towards solutions. But any remarks or actions that are dismissive probably will be, and definitely should be, met with more anger and more protests. :twocents:
     
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    Ooohkay, wait a second now. At first I'd only read the articles and saw the still pics. Now that I've seen the video, I'm wondering, where was the threat of violence? Is it just me, or was there no threatening mob? I saw some protestors, and a big crowd of security and police rushing her off, but no menacing? :waitasec:

    Is this possibly being overblown? Wouldn't be the first time a minority has been deliberately portrayed badly by the press.
     
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    wfgodot Former Member

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    snip-snip

    My GOD! There are two of us here?
     
  11. wfgodot

    wfgodot Former Member

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    more here: The Australian
     
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  14. LadyL

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    ok, admittedly, I know nothing about Austrailia's indigeneous people so I have a question ... how close do they live to this place where the protests were?

    oh, and in the first pic, I see a guy in a colorful t-shirt with what looks like a really long wooden stick or weapon of some sort ... is it a walking cane? an umbrella? a weapon?? just curious ...
     
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    Video @ link:

    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8409363/tent-protesters-should-be-ashamed-gooda

    Tony Abbott should be ashamed of himself too IMO.

    http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8409305/julia-gillard-dragged-from-angry-mob
     
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    He's wearing an aboriginal flag tee. It sure doesn't look like an umberella walking stick, didgeridoo or a rainstick....more likely a weapon to protect himself from the po-po. (jmo)

    All seriousness aside.....how funny is this?
    (Eta- that they were going to auction it off on ebay)

    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...lue-shoe-on-ebay/story-e6freuy9-1226254741602
     
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    Laughing in spite of myself. Hated to see PM JG get jostled, as women should not be jostled (old skool opinion - born in the '50s).
     
  19. LadyL

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    I noticed she lost a shoe ... the people yanking her forward seemed, um very aggressive

    I bet she has few bruises crop up in the next day or so
     
  20. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    The guy surrounded by people running? The one with a staff hanging limply at his side as he appeared to walk past the running white people? I doubt it was a weapon. The main weapons they would have would be spears and boomerangs. It was likely a walking stick.

    My mom lived in Western Australia for 7 years after WWII. It was mostly bush then. She saw first hand how the "blacks" were treated. Aborigines could not come into Perth unless they had a work permit and even then, only in specific areas. And the history of their treatment is much worse than what my mom was aware of.

    Much like the Native Americans here, Aborigines were massacred, devastated by disease brought by immigrants, the children were stolen from their parents and put into institutions where they were punished if they spoke their language and, of course, their land was taken from them.

    When you do that to a people, you seriously damage them in ways that stretch across generations. I don't think Australia has made up for what was done to the indigenous people there. I don't blame them for being angry.

    But I saw the tape. I saw some people banging on windows and yelling "shame" and one lady running up to a car as the officials were whisked away. The rest of it was a bunch of scared white people, running from themselves and screaming at each other, IMO.
     
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    That's what it seemed like from the video. Hysterics of people scared by a dark-skinned "mob". Kind of just seemed like a lively protest to me.
     

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