Pearl Harbor Day

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  1. cappuccina

    cappuccina Former Member

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    ...two survivors tell their stories...

    http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/...pearl07.article

    http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/.../612070379/1005

    Excellent Wikipedia article, with lots of detiled info.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor


    President Roosevelt signing the Declaration of War against Japan the next day:

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...cember_1941.jpg

    Don't you wish our country were in the hands of someone competent, knowledeable and caring like FDR? The things that he did without the technology we have now continue to amaze me...
     
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  3. 2sisters

    2sisters New Member

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    I know, his task back then was much more daunting than George's.
     
  4. cappuccina

    cappuccina Former Member

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    ...FDR's famous "Pearl Harbor" speech...

    http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/fdrpearlharbor.htm

    (Quality is excellent; they've gotten rid of any distortion and background noise...)

    Interesting that when you run this speech through the various programs that test for content, grammar and "grade level"...this speech comes out at a much higher level than any of Bush's... :D

    Seriously, though, my parents and grandparents said that US citizens felt very protected by FDR, even if they didn't agree with everything he said, and even though he, too, had to send troops into war...
     
  5. Marthatex

    Marthatex New Member

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    Our entire nation, all of its people, had to make tremendous sacrifices in order to overcome the evil powers at that time.

    Shall we always remember and learn from history. "History, with a capital H, is a living thing" - William Styron
     
  6. hockeymom

    hockeymom New Member

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    Back then the enemy was much more"tangable". It was a country attacking,not a group of people scattered all over the world. At least you could say,lets bomb,Japan,Germany,etc... Today the enemy is lurking everywhere.
    I wonder how the leaders of the past would deal with a war on terror?
     
  7. DEPUTYDAWG

    DEPUTYDAWG Active Member

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    In 1994, I visited Pearl Harbor with my father, a retired Lt. Colonel in the Navy. He knew a few survivors, and he knew a few that died in the attack.

    Truly, one of the most jaw-dropping memories I will EVERRRRR have was standing back at the memorial and watching my dad take it all in, very somber...with tears streaming down his face. It was sad, but I will be forever grateful to have witnessed my father go there and reflect. What an honor. One of his favorite things to do is read all (and I mean all!) the Pearl Harbor books, etc. It has so much meaning to him.

    I haven't talked to him today - I think I should call him. I know it's a somber day for him today, it always is...
     
  8. cappuccina

    cappuccina Former Member

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    ..and all over the world, actually...

    ...the main difference was, they did not have access to computers and the technology we have now, so they could not be as silently "well connected" as these groups are now (Thank God)...but, they were there all right...

    Here is a brief list of some definitive books on this...

    http://intellit.muskingum.edu/wwii_folder/wwiieurope_folder/wwiieurgermany_folder/wwiieurgerops.html

    Also:

    http://intellit.muskingum.edu/fbi_folder/fbiwwii.html


    So, I guess the answer is that FDR, and the American government (civilian and military personnel) did an excellent job in the war on the Axis and Nazi terror during WWII...

    Can you imagine doing what FDR did without the things we take for granted now??
     
  9. cappuccina

    cappuccina Former Member

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    ...yes, I'm sure your Dad would love to hear from you today...

    Tell your Dad thank you for serving and protecting all of us, and I do mean the collective "us"... Even though I was not born until after WWII, if it were not for the American liberators of the concentration camps, for example, part of my family, as I know it, would not exist...
     
  10. DEPUTYDAWG

    DEPUTYDAWG Active Member

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    Thanks, ya know what? I will tell him! He is so very proud of his Naval service, and the Navy, so it'll be an honor to tell him people in this day and age still respect the work they did....

    I just emailed him a note, and cried as I typed it. I know how he is about this, I know he will tear up reading it, as well. But I don't know that I ever really told him how meaningful that day was with him...and heck, if I relay that to cyber-strangers, I should at least let him know what an impact it had on me, huh?! :)

    (Yep, I'll still call him tonight, as well.)
     
  11. Gracelin

    Gracelin New Member

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    Remembering my Dad today, He survived Pearl Harbor.
     
  12. cappuccina

    cappuccina Former Member

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    ...was he able to talk to you about it?
     
  13. Marthatex

    Marthatex New Member

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    There's a book I've been meaning to read by Scott Turow, called Ordinary Heroes, about how a man traces his father's past by tracing military archives and letters he wrote to discover some of his secrets during WWII; looks interesting.

    Of course Flags of Our Fathers is about Iwogema (sp?). We have a WWII museum near us in Fredericksburg, TX., and it's fascinating and oh so sad to read the letters home.

    Of course we have a similar thing going on today; war is always hard and it's always sad. My father served In the Navy in WWII, and had a Navy burial this year.
     
  14. DEPUTYDAWG

    DEPUTYDAWG Active Member

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    How absolutely wonderful....as another poster asked, did he ever tell many stories about it?
     
  15. DEPUTYDAWG

    DEPUTYDAWG Active Member

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    Isn't that great...all of us "Navy Juniors" on board here ;)

    I didn't know about that museum - my dad came to visit 2 months ago. Had I known that, I would've taken him there. He would love that! Hopefully he'll be able to travel out again next year and I'll take him on a roadtrip to Fredericksburg! Thanks for that tidbit.
     
  16. Gracelin

    Gracelin New Member

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    No I only know what my mom told us, as he died in 1965. I was a youngster..

    He was off base when the strike happend, He spent days pulling bodies from the rubble on Pearl,

    He was then sent state side to gather Japannese American and place them in detention, He was a MP.

    The nightmares of what happened at Pearl, and the lives he tore apart placing familys he knew were of no threat to us, in relocation camps never left him.

    As hard as his job was,it was not a glorious one. Mom says he was never the same again..
     
  17. Jeana (DP)

    Jeana (DP) Former Member

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    I was in Honolulu for a trial several years back and visited the Arizona Memorial. I had a lump in my throat for weeks. I'm glad that I was there, but it sure does take the stuffing out of ya.
     
  18. Marthatex

    Marthatex New Member

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    I think it's called the Pacific War Museum now; used to be the Admiral Nimitz Museum. They've expanded it and it's really impressive!
     

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