Penn State Sandusky cover-up: AD arrested, Paterno fired, dies; cover-up charged #8

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Even with a plea deal JS would still get some prison time wouldn't he?

IIRC the public lewdness charges have a sentence of 5 years each.

I can't imagine that the state would allow a plea deal without a substantial sentence.
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Everything in this case has been unimaginable; prepare for an unimaginable plea deal. :( I fear a plea deal for Jerry will consist of a very short sentence, mandatory counseling bs, and a short-lived discussion about Depo-Provera injections.

It has been positively concluded from numerous scientific studies that Depo-Provera shots and counseling do NOT alter the sexual behavior of pedophiles that:
-deny the perpetration of the offense,
-admit the perpetration, but refuse to take responsibility for their behavior (blame it on drugs, alcohol, stress, bad marriage, and etc...),
-become violent when angry or when they must satisfy their need for power

Jerry fits into one of those categories if not two or three of them. Counseling will not "fix" Jerry's sexual orientation. He will never submit himself for a Depo-Provera injection claiming he has too many health contraindications. The prosecution should not offer to work with Jerry on a plea deal. He needs to stay in prison a looooooooong time.
 
Reader said:
Even with a plea deal JS would still get some prison time wouldn't he?

IIRC the public lewdness charges have a sentence of 5 years each.

I can't imagine that the state would allow a plea deal without a substantial sentence.
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It would be the open lewdness clause under Unlawful Contact with Minor in regard to Victim 6, :) but you are correct, it's five years per charge. He's charged with four counts, but I'd expect that it would just be one one count. One corruption/endangerment charges, it's a maximum of 2 years each. In theory, with just Victim 6, if he'd convicted on all counts for that one, it would be a maximum of 34 years consecutive. I'd really expect to end up with one felony, two misdemeanors, concurrently, for that victim, so maybe 18-24 months, if convicted.

One of the ex-priest in the Phila case took a deal and turned state's evidence. He got 2 1/2 to 5, but I'm told that, with good behavior, he'll be out in 20 months, and he plead guilty to "involuntary deviate sexual intercourse" which could bring a 40 year sentence, and endangerment (two year, misdemeanor).
 
SO....WHO would JS testify against for the state to get a plea deal?
 
Reader said:
SO....WHO would JS testify against for the state to get a plea deal?
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Back to the old familiar 'follow the money' aspect if Sandusky gets a plea deal.

So what does Sandusky know and who can he blackmail to keep silent and get the deal?
 
We will soon find out how much the big money in Pennsylvania wants Jerry's case to avoid more publicity/embarrassing PA by not going to trial. Jerry may be offered a deal if he agrees to plead guilty to one of the lesser charges. If this bs occurs, it will be described as "a merciful action which was necessary to prevent re-traumatizing the young men" rather than an action to prevent more negative publicity. Phew!
 
Reader said:
SO....WHO would JS testify against for the state to get a plea deal?
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Well, he wouldn't necessarily have to testify against anyone, though he could name people at PSU or TSM. He could agree to 10-15 year sentence on several of the charges, but have the bulk dropped, and just save the Commonwealth the expense of the trial.

You have two victims, at least, where the case is very strong, Victims 1 and 6. There is at least some corroboration to both and there is a victim; Sandusky either admitted to his acts or there are witnesses to his unusual contact.

Victim 2 has a witness, but there is no victim.

Except for Victim 8, the others have a victim, but no witnesses. One of the others may have a witness, but I'd have to check.

Victim 8 has no victim and no direct witnesses.

I could easily see giving up Victim 8; I'd even have a hard time convicting on that one. Victims 3, 4, 5, 7, are, basically, the victim's word against Sandusky. I could easily see pleading to the felony with Victim 1, the misdemeanors with Victim 6 and possibly Victim 2, and maybe getting out by 2020.

The thing is, when he gets out, he'd be on Megan's List, and nobody will let him near children.
 
J. J. in Phila said:
Well, he wouldn't necessarily have to testify against anyone, though he could name people at PSU or TSM. He could agree to 10-15 year sentence on several of the charges, but have the bulk dropped, and just save the Commonwealth the expense of the trial.

You have two victims, at least, where the case is very strong, Victims 1 and 6. There is at least some corroboration to both and there is a victim; Sandusky either admitted to his acts or there are witnesses to his unusual contact.

Victim 2 has a witness, but there is no victim.

Except for Victim 8, the others have a victim, but no witnesses. One of the others may have a witness, but I'd have to check.

Victim 8 has no victim and no direct witnesses.

I could easily see giving up Victim 8; I'd even have a hard time convicting on that one. Victims 3, 4, 5, 7, are, basically, the victim's word against Sandusky. I could easily see pleading to the felony with Victim 1, the misdemeanors with Victim 6 and possibly Victim 2, and maybe getting out by 2020.

The thing is, when he gets out, he'd be on Megan's List, and nobody will let him near children.
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Nobody has to let him near their children. Most children have computer access and too many parents aren't watching their online activities.

He may decided to go on bimonthly vacations to countries where children are openly sold.

In addition, other pedos will invite him to their pedo sites and sell him their videos. This will not be as gratifying to Jerry, but he won't be able to change his sexual orientation. He will "adapt" and he will still be dangerous.
 
Pensfan said:
Nobody has to let him near their children. Most children have computer access and too many parents aren't watching their online activities.
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You can ban him from using a computer as part of his parole, or keep it tightly monitored.

He may decided to go on bimonthly vacations to countries where children are openly sold.
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Not without a passport.

I really don't care how might time Sandusky gets; I do care if he has access to children. As long as he can't hurt anyone else, I'd regard that as a victory for the AG (not to mention the rest of us).
 
I'm trying to find that info about Corbett's campaign contributions and Second Mile. Seems like it was on a site like CasablancaPa.

Can anyone help? And is that site a reliable source?
 
pinktoes said:
I'm trying to find that info about Corbett's campaign contributions and Second Mile. Seems like it was on a site like CasablancaPa.

Can anyone help? And is that site a reliable source?
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There may me a site called "Open Secrets." I know they do national elections.

If yo check, you will discover, that for the first time since 1990, I did not contribute to a candidate for governor.
 
Pensfan said:
Nobody has to let him near their children. Most children have computer access and too many parents aren't watching their online activities.

He may decided to go on bimonthly vacations to countries where children are openly sold.

In addition, other pedos will invite him to their pedo sites and sell him their videos. This will not be as gratifying to Jerry, but he won't be able to change his sexual orientation. He will "adapt" and he will still be dangerous.
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Agree...we read and post links everyday to this forum about re-offenders...they never change....just read the thread on the priest scandal.

I for one just find it hard to believe that the AG has gone thru 3 years of the GJ, and is still investigating, and gotten this close to trial, to just accept a plea deal unless it is for most of the charges and a lot of years for JS. We don't really know what evidence and witnesses they have found since the GJ report back in Nov. I say go for it and put him in prison for at least as long as he has been abusing children....15 years documented, probably since he was a teenager/young adult.

The AG and the rest of the people working on this know as we do that he will continue to groom and abuse children as long as he can get away with it. These people are adept at skirting the rules and doing as they like. Remember, he had most of PSU, the town, TSM and a bunch of hometown people fooled for over 30 years. He's slick....and evil under that 'aw shucks' sham exterior.
 
Sandusky Judge Issues Gag Order; Lawyerin’ Joe Amendola Will Have To Keep His Lawyerin’ At A Dull Roar

Of course, the gag order is really about only one guy: Sandusky's attorney, Lawyerin' Joe Amendola, Esq. I have to say, I'll miss his particular brand of lawyerin'. He was a comic artist—the straight man who also got the funny lines. He was what Margaret Dumont was to the Marx Brothers movies, except he was Harpo Marx, too. (Or better yet: He was both Gallagher and the melon.) Watching him work was like watching a guy trying to find a new way to stuff his head up his ***. When he talked, kazoo sounds came out of his mouth.

http://deadspin.com/5900294/sandusk...is-lawyerin-to-a-dull-roar?tag=jerry-sandusky
 
Sandusky defense tab totals $200,000 so far

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation...tion-TopStories+(News+-+Nation+-+Top+Stories)

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. – Jerry Sandusky's defense against child sex-abuse charges has cost an estimated $200,000 so far, and his lawyer said uncertain financial resources have caused the defense team to forego psychological testing of the former Penn State University assistant football coach as his trial approaches in June.

That's OK, we already know ye, Jer..

Five months after a Pennsylvania grand jury outlined the first charges against Sandusky, attorney Joe Amendola told USA TODAY that financial considerations also have limited defense investigations into the backgrounds of Sandusky's eight known accusers.

So sad, too bad...

Amendola said his client has "cashed out" his retirement account and is drawing on a insurance policy from the Second Mile, the organization he founded to assist at-risk children, to help pay for his defense.

Boohoo, sob, sob....

"This case screams for a team of lawyers and investigators — a team of specialists," Amendola said.

Instead, he said, Sandusky is spending his days sequestered under house arrest calling potential witnesses "who will be helpful" to the defense. Some days, Amendola said, Sandusky calls him "15 times a day" relaying information or posing questions.

Better you than me, Joe...sure you got all the answers and spins...

Christopher Mallios, a former Philadelphia prosecutor, said Amendola "squandered" an opportunity to learn more about the victims and the government's case when he waived the preliminary hearing back in December, where the state is required to offer evidence to support a prosecution.

"If they haven't been able to do full background investigations, that falls squarely on his shoulders," Mallios said.

He and Jer were scared of them FACTS gettin' out...

More at link....
 
Reader said:
Sandusky defense tab totals $200,000 so far

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation...tion-TopStories+(News+-+Nation+-+Top+Stories)

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. – Jerry Sandusky's defense against child sex-abuse charges has cost an estimated $200,000 so far, and his lawyer said uncertain financial resources have caused the defense team to forego psychological testing of the former Penn State University assistant football coach as his trial approaches in June.

That's OK, we already know ye, Jer..

Five months after a Pennsylvania grand jury outlined the first charges against Sandusky, attorney Joe Amendola told USA TODAY that financial considerations also have limited defense investigations into the backgrounds of Sandusky's eight known accusers.

So sad, too bad...

Amendola said his client has "cashed out" his retirement account and is drawing on a insurance policy from the Second Mile, the organization he founded to assist at-risk children, to help pay for his defense.

Boohoo, sob, sob....

"This case screams for a team of lawyers and investigators — a team of specialists," Amendola said.

Instead, he said, Sandusky is spending his days sequestered under house arrest calling potential witnesses "who will be helpful" to the defense. Some days, Amendola said, Sandusky calls him "15 times a day" relaying information or posing questions.

Better you than me, Joe...sure you got all the answers and spins...

Christopher Mallios, a former Philadelphia prosecutor, said Amendola "squandered" an opportunity to learn more about the victims and the government's case when he waived the preliminary hearing back in December, where the state is required to offer evidence to support a prosecution.

"If they haven't been able to do full background investigations, that falls squarely on his shoulders," Mallios said.

He and Jer were scared of them FACTS gettin' out...

More at link....
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I believe this is Amendola's first step at having Sandusky declared indigent and having the state of Pennsylvania pay for his defense.
 
With all the corollary damage in the Victim 2 case, especially to McQueary, it's hard to think of that one being dropped.
 
Former PSU president Spanier lands job in national security for unidentified agency.

"A Penn State spokeswoman confirmed on Wednesday that Spanier, who is listed in the university's online directory as president emeritus, took on the project during a year-long sabbatical from his post as a tenured professor in Penn State's College of Health and Human Development.

"The project is an effort to continue to bridge the gap between our nation's national security agencies and other entities," said Penn State spokeswoman Lisa Powers."

Former PSU president Spanier lands job in national security - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/state/s_790888.html#ixzz1ryP1iCwR
 
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