GUILTY Peru - Stephany Flores, 21, murdered in Lima hotel room, 30 May 2010 #12

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  1. Salem

    Salem Former Member

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  3. doobiedoo52

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    I just posted a note about Joran telling Beth Holloway things that Natalee said when she was drunk and questioned whether it triggered memories of that same night 5 years before.

    Here is the quote from the book:
    According to Joran, after they left Carlos'n Charlie's, Natalee asked to see sharks.
    He told her there were no sharks, but she insisted. So they drove to the lighthouse.
    On the way over, Joran says he and Natalee made out in the backseat, but she was
    "so drunk," she kept falling asleep and waking up.

    Joran relates some crazy things Natalee supposedly said — that she's a lesbian,
    that she's related to Hitler.


    There are only 3 pages but if you'd like to refresh some early memories here is the link:
    http://www.goodhousekeeping.com/family/real/natalee-holloway-daughter-beth-holloway
     
  4. Nana46

    Nana46 Runs with Scissors

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    Did anyone else hear Mr. Kelly (Beth's attny.) say something about what JVS said regarding "tell Beth I will see her in five years"? It was something in his exchange with JVS I guess he asked "what if she does not pay you the money" paraphrasing here.......that struck me as odd that he was bringing up the date again of five years.....as the money exchange was coming up close to the anniversary.
     
  5. Carolina Girl

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    I did not hear that. Better go find it....
     
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    Mr. Kelly said what if I don't have the money for you and that was JVS's reply to Mr. Kelly
     
  7. Nana46

    Nana46 Runs with Scissors

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    Thank you so much...I had a phone call about that time and I was afraid I did not hear it right,lol
     
  8. KR2tonenow

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    Associated Press
    2010-06-12 05:29 AM
    Taiwan News

    Police say Van der Sloot brutally murdered Flores three days after meeting her at a casino. He broke her nose, strangled her, threw her to the floor then emptied her wallet and drove away in her SUV, said Gen. Cesar Guardia, chief of the criminal police.

    The 6-foot-3 (190-centimeter-tall) Van der Sloot took about $300 worth of Peruvian currency ($104.00 US), two credit cards and Flores' national ID card, Guardia said. He said the suspect abandoned her car in a lower-class Lima neighborhood before fleeing south to Chile by bus.


    http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_...&lang=eng_news

    This is where the $300.00 came from. (FYI)
     
  9. KR2tonenow

    KR2tonenow New Member

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    Dateline so far is covering the NH case.
     
  10. Harmony 2

    Harmony 2 Administrator Staff Member Administrator Moderator

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    http://www.rr.com/news/topic/article/rr/9009/13731271/Van_der_Sloot_Tells_All/full/
     
  11. Nana46

    Nana46 Runs with Scissors

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    One of the questions for me now is this.......who is paying this lawyer of JVS? I suppose there is always somebody willing to step in and pay for someone to have an attorney....a private one at that.
     
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    Just wondering, is it possible SF & JVDS knew each other through some kind of poker game online and then decided to meet in person? Don't know if anyone already asked this question but I thought about it because someone said JVDS was addicted to poker and played games online.
     
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    GLORY,

    You have a most excellent point.

    I do get bothered when it appears people ignore something they can see, or pick and choose evidence if it bolsters their theory. You have stated in several posts that the coffee video somehow exculpates VDS. What you keep failing to mention is your explanation for why in the world he would leave the hotel room, fail to shut the door completely, immediately begin knocking, realize he has not shut the door, pull the door shut, and then immediately begin knocking again. Please explain how this shows anything other than VDS trying to create an alibi. Please explain why he knocks on a still-open door, and then shuts it and knocks again.

    There is NO other reason for this action than to create an alibi. Who silently taps (I wouldn't call it knocking) on an open door, shuts the door, then repeats tapping.

    Best,

    Mel
     
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    I was taking care of a sick family member all day. I missed everything. Obviously, I know JVDS was charged & sent to prison. Anyone care to fill me in on the highlights of the day?
     
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    http://abcnews.go.com/International/Media/joren-van-der-sloot-high-night-peru-killing/story?id=10893791

    After van der Sloot was loaded back into the van to be transported to Lima's Miguel Castro Castro prison, Police General Cesar Guardia told The Daily Beast that most of what the accused murderer had confessed were blatant lies. "His toxicological report shows no signs that he had ingested any kind of drug," Guardia said, countering van der Sloot's perhaps strategic claim that he was high on marijuana when he killed Flores—in Peru, felony crimes committed under the influence of drugs can be treated with leniency in the courts.

    Guardia also told The Daily Beast that van der Sloot lied about the timing of the murder. Earlier in the week, he told investigators that he had gone out to buy coffee for himself and Flores, and killed her when he returned to the room after finding the young woman on his computer. In fact, according to Guardia, hotel surveillance cameras show that van der Sloot faked his early-morning coffee run. Instead, he left the room with two empty paper cups and then summoned a member of the hotel staff to open his door, lying that he had forgotten his key.
     
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    According to Dateline, Beth Holloway is devastated that her money, the 25k financed JVDS trip to Peru.
     
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    It will be interesting to findo out if this article is true and there is no other footage of him leaving to grab coffee at the mini-mart. That means that the murder could have happened anytime between 5:15 a.m. and 8:25 a.m. In other words, it widens the time of death, again. :waitasec:
     
  19. Melanie

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    Yikes - I think that's a bit of a stretch for the magazine. If you look back at his 2006 interview, he doesn't mention she told him she was a lesbian, or related to Hitler. He said "her mother is Hitler's sister". Which I think was just a mean and vindictful statement. Also, nothing about her falling alseep in the backseat -- she was alert the entire time (per JVS). She seemed okay as they walked on the beach.

    The falling asleep part was on the beach (again, per JVS). Do I believe him -- not entirely.

    Here are the words out of his mouth.

    http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/joran-van-der-sloot-2006-interview-10828526

    MOO

    Mel
     
  20. jjenny

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    So I guess he was going to claim somebody killed the girl while he was out getting coffee? But he didn't even leave the hotel to get the coffee? A brilliant mind he is not.
     
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    http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-...-prison-and-murder-charges/?cid=hp:mainpromo2


    "The Dutchman will be held in a solitary cell for at least four or five months," a prison official told The Daily Beast. "For his own safety we cannot mix him with the other prisoners. This murder case is so infamous that he could easily be killed. There are a lot of murderers in this prison, especially hit men who can easily be contracted from outside … To the criminal mind, it's an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth. They feel affronted that he's murdered a Peruvian girl and they would kill him for the honor of their country."
     
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