Photo Images inside Garrido Home

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  1. smgtheophilus

    smgtheophilus New Member

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    Probably just a difference in experience. Growing up, our house was always a mess, and every other house I went to was a mess, with stuff piled up. Cars and vans were filled with crap. People lived like they were homeless. But perhaps that is a symptom of hippies + drugs. Or Hippies + poverty. Like I said before, I'm not including the affluent hippies that were all over LA at the time.
     


  2. songline

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    In the beginning I saw a picture with a box of cereal in JC's tent. I imagine that was what they often ate.
    I too can not imagine cooking in that dump.
    I am smiling now because they are eating well, and I am sure enjoying every bite. :)
     
  3. songline

    songline New Member

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    :crazy: maybe I am nuts :crazy:
    but what if he allowed the girls to watch video movies?

    Would he be watching porn in front of them? :eek:
    :waitasec: would they bond with him if they saw something like that :waitasec:
    I really can not imagine. but maybe I am naive...
     
  4. songline

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    we were not affluent, but we were not drug users. Just a little smoke, went good with music.... :) but that is all.
     
  5. JulieNMM

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    I hadn't heard that about the TV dinners. Where did you find that info?
     
  6. roller26

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    No doubt. I didn't mean to minimize the tragedy that took place there. Nor what jaycee & her girls suffered. Im sorry if I offended you. The pictures are very hard to look at- at the time of my post I think I was attempting to focus on another aspect to relieve a heavy heart and mind.
     
  7. MBK

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    I saw Ramen noodles in one of the photographs of the interior of the Garrido residence.

    [​IMG]

    I believe there is a microwave in one of the sheds in the backyard (?)
     
  8. Natal

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    There was some news item (I don't recall where) that mentioned what they were feeding them in the safe house. Apparently it was that stuff because it was what they were used to. No "fizzy drinks" either IIRC, just cold water.
     
  9. Miss_Scarlett

    Miss_Scarlett Oh, come on, you don't think I'm gonna fall for th

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    You should watch Hoarders on A&E on Monday nights. It's been on a few weeks. Hoarders often start out with slightly organized piles, but if there is no help with the condition and/or a big stressor occurs (on the show it's mostly death of a parent or spouse) it just becomes a huge mess like those photos.

    The film screen creeps me out. We had one (or my grandparents did, so maybe it's his mother's) when I was young, but it makes me wonder what kind of movies he's watching!
     
  10. Miss_Scarlett

    Miss_Scarlett Oh, come on, you don't think I'm gonna fall for th

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    I noticed that, too! I don't know anyone who has a dispenser like that even if it's just soap. Maybe it's something his mother put in or from a previous owner. Or, oddly, I saw a woman on a hoarding show (MSNBC had some great specials on it) who said she could not clean up her house because it was too dirty. It has a weird kind of logic, though. The computer set up in Garrido's home facing the film screen reminded me of one apt they were cleaning up on an MSNBC show where the professional cleaner said there is often a "control station" type area, or something like that, in the midst of the mess.
     
  11. Miss_Scarlett

    Miss_Scarlett Oh, come on, you don't think I'm gonna fall for th

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    I know what you mean. When I was maybe five or so I accidentally left Teddy out by my swing set overnight, and it rained. I cried so hard and felt so guilty that I'd "done" that do him. I'm in my 40s and still remember how I felt! That's why I understood Tom Hanks and the soccer ball in the movie Castaway. That scene really made me cry.
     
  12. Miss_Scarlett

    Miss_Scarlett Oh, come on, you don't think I'm gonna fall for th

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    It's possible that even if the police did not raid the house that they did place items on beds and other furniture just so they'd have room to walk safely. Maybe all of that stuff was on the floor before.
     
  13. Miss_Scarlett

    Miss_Scarlett Oh, come on, you don't think I'm gonna fall for th

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    I think it was based on the Collyer Brothers: [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collyer_brothers[/ame]

    There is a new novel based on their lives just out called Homer & Langley: [ame="http://www.amazon.com/Homer-Langley-Novel-E-L-Doctorow/dp/1400064945"]Amazon.com: Homer & Langley: A Novel (9781400064946): E.L. Doctorow: Books[/ame]

    For people who don't know... They were very rich and hoarded literally tons of junk, including an old car in their home. One brother was blind and the other took care of him. One day the sighted brother was killed when a huge stack of newspapers (he kept them to create a complete news source) fell on him. The other brother died later when no one came to care for him and he could not get out. They were rich, intelligent, and lived in a large home, yet still hoarded this way. It's a disorder just like anorexia or OCD or any number of problems. Not just laziness.
     
  14. kgeaux

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    I think these were the brothers who were very intelligent---genius level, IIRC. This mental illness can strike anyone, anywhere! The Collyer story is a very, very interesting one. The part about the car in the basement---and was there a collection of rubber balls? I need to re-read.

    Hoarders normally do not hoard due to laziness or because they're just dirty people. They hoard because there is a mental process going on that will not let them part with things.

    The pics of the outdoor areas seem to support that a hoarder lived there---I just don't know if it was Phillip, Nancy, his mother or who? The interior, to be honest, doesn't look like a hoarding situation to me. It looks to me like things were moved out of closets and cabinets during the search and nothing was replaced. There just isn't enough stuff in the house to make me believe all that stuff was left lying around like that by the Garridos. We see partically empty storage spaces in the kitchen, while the dishes are piled to the ceiling. I think those dishes may have filled those spaces! (Just my opinion, not trying to defend the monsters.)
     
  15. Angelmuse

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    Yes I noticed that too it really jumped out at me. Amongst this pile of rubbish is what does appear to be a child's art work, which makes this even more heart breaking. :(
     
  16. Openmind

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    This is not a socioeconomic issue. Recently, they had a movie about Jackie Kennedy's aunt and cousin that lived it squalor. It was based on a documentary about the two and a history about their lives.

    source: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Gardens"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Gardens[/ame]

    Once upon a time, someone cared for the Garrido home. The furnishings are dated, but they were stylish in their day, undoubtedly, when Garrido's mother had her health and took care of herself and her house. This clutter and disarray took time to collect. Truthfully, I have seen pictures of much worse. The fact Jaycee was forced to live like this -- and in the backyard, at that -- is just one more depravity she had to endure.
     
  17. songline

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    Maybe I am just a practical thinker, but I imagine that the LE agency that took the girl from the station
    when PG & NG were arrested and got them prepared to go home to JCs Mom would have asked them;
    "Is there anything you want from that house? to take along?" I just assume that would be a protocol.
    But what do I know? Other than it just makes sense, since the girls were removed from what is familiar.
    I think it would be important to ask that question. LE did a lousy job regarding these girls for 18 years.

    I used to do counseling; It would be an important question IMO, but maybe this is very different.
     
  18. flourish

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    Yes, those are they guys I was talking about, thank you for being so much less lazy than me and adding all this info:) :dance:
     
  19. flourish

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    bbm
    This situation may go beyond any previously defined protocol, I reckon.
     
  20. Openmind

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    I don't think victims get to take anything with them from a suspected crime scene. When a child is taken into care, they are not allowed to pack a suitcase, take a toy, or any of their personal belongings. I don't think Jaycee or the girls got to go back and retrieve anything including all their pets.
     

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