Plaid hat girl with dark hair and wild eye makeup

Discussion in 'Alcala and the Unidentified' started by Donjeta, Apr 12, 2010.

  1. Beekarina

    Beekarina Well-Known Member

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    Is it possible Princess Blue died in 1978 or early 1979, and was 17-21 years old at that time? A 21 year-old would have been 18 in 1975, and had a 1975 class ring...

    Could the date of death be 10-11 years off? Or do estimated dates tend to be highly accurate for skeletal remains?
     
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    They're not highly accurate, but they're not usually off by decades, either.
     
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    She is wearing mod makeup, this tells me late sixties. Plus it's the nyc apartment.
     
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    Victoria said LE said all the pics were taken in the 70s, so it has to be 1970-1972.
     
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    1970 till early 1971 when he was caught.
     
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    These "hair" looks as fake as it could be. I doubt that's even a wig, with that weird hat it's simmilar to pics that me and my friends use to take while messing up with clothes and makeup just to take some crazy weird shoots. No one would forgot that makeup - if nobody recalls seeing a girl with that distinctive makeup that she never wore it outside and she was just goofing around to take the pics.

    Also that girl looks extremely young to me, like 12, 13 tops.
    In my opinion she never appeared as on these pics. No makeup, different hairstyle and possibly someone will recognize her
     
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  7. Beekarina

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    I find her hat/scarf/headwrap perplexing.

    The shape is strange, almost like it's fashioned from a bit of flannel pillowcase. I can't find any similar vintage hats. I remember berets being a thing in the 70s when I was little. Lots of vintage plaid berets online. Ditto newsboys. Plenty of more feminine dressy hats, but nothing like this.

    I wonder if it's not a hat at all, but something he strangled her with?
     
  8. Daphne1972

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    Come on :) it's a fez.
     
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  9. Beekarina

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    It doesn't look like a fez to me. It looks really thin, and "deconstructed". I've never owned a fez personally though, so I'm going from memory of hats my mom wore. If you're into hats, I defer.

    I was looking more closely at her hair again, after the comment above noting her age possibly being as young as 12 or 13, because I thought her hair was a wig initially too. And the plaid thing could also be holding a wig in place. So,I'm wondering if we should be looking for younger missing with short hair?
     
  10. Beekarina

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    Here's another way to explain what I was seeing: if you enlarge the photo, near her hairline the plaid fabric has a crease line. It also seems to follow the shape of her skull more closely than a hat. Can others see this? I'm wondering if could be an article of her clothing then?

    I realize I could be on a tangent. Just thinking of possibilities we could search for among missing or UID. I'm going to see if there are any with similar plaid garments that might fit. Never know...
     
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    Since it seems like she was dressed up for this photoshoot, and as she's wearing a fez with egyptian styled makeup, I wonder if Alcala had her dress up in a Eastern way (Egyptian/Moroccan). Going by his other pics when he has Oriental-Japanese geisha statues in the background of girls he took a picture of, and that story about him trying to make a 13 year old girl he brought to his apartment to wear a Oriental outfit (I forgot whether or not if it was a kimono, or something), I am thinking this goes in pattern with his apparent sexual fascination with Orientalistic themes and garb.

    Also wonder if there's a racial aspect to it too, because while Alcala is Mexican most of the girls he took pictures of were non-Mexican, with many of them being blondes. So I am guessing he has a thing for the "exotic".

    this doesn't really help much with identification, but I thought it was an interesting thing to observe.
     
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  12. Beekarina

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    She also has a fair amount of moles. I didn't really notice until now, since I usually view this site on a mobile device & her eye makeup was so distracting.
     
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    Deleted by me.
     
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    I was thinking about when someone said this girl looks 12-13 tops. It had me wondering. This girl kinda looks similar to the way I looked around that age too, and I also liked to play around with wigs and eye makeup in that same fashion, that would give me the same "look". But the eye makeup looks very well done, like someone who's been doing it for years. And she's got the inner eye in, so I know she did it herself.

    I put her as far as in her twenties cause I know some 20-21 year old girls can look real young and baby faced like that, but now I'm looking closely at her, I do believe she is in the 12-16 age range, because of this innocent gleam in her eyes and the very small shoulders she has of someone undeveloped.
     
  15. Beekarina

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    The more I return to look, I think mid teens. It's possible she could be anywhere from 12-20, but I really think she's closer to 15-17.

    I noticed the old remark about sanpaku eyes, and Having no idea what that was, looked it up. If her eyes normally had whites visible below her iris, and not as a result of drugs, etc. that should help comparing photos if she is a missing person, with photos available.
     
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    That's interesting, Bargle. The shape of it is high/round too.

    She has so many unique characteristics, even without the make-up, thank it seems really odd she's still not identified. Hopefully this means she is alive, or at least wasn't his victim.
     

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