POI - Dale Golder - #1

Discussion in 'Lindsey Baum' started by christine2448, Oct 3, 2009.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Jules71

    Jules71 Active Member

    Messages:
    4,696
    Likes Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    38
    As far as I know, yes 9 am.
     
  2. seventeenseconds

    seventeenseconds SeventeenSeconds

    Messages:
    358
    Likes Received:
    53
    Trophy Points:
    28
    gonna try to be there :)
     
  3. yosande

    yosande ...

    Messages:
    2,899
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    38
    I have been gone for awhile, so please forgive ignorant questions.
    Is it noted anywhere that when he returned to work on June 28 that he looked as though he had scratches on his face, or arms?
    I ask this b/c Lindsey's mom said Lindsey would have fought, and that she had long fingernails. tia
     
  4. scandi

    scandi New Member

    Messages:
    18,228
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Oh, It's great to see you again Yosande. ;} I don't remember reading about that except they let him go at the Beehive because of all the publicity. He was due to go back to the camp on July 29th and haven't heard anymore. I did read he has lost both jobs but it is not verified. xox
     
  5. scandi

    scandi New Member

    Messages:
    18,228
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    0
  6. momtective

    momtective Lifetime WS Non-Mod

    Messages:
    12,005
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Sorry, I have made a mistake and need some help deciphering this portion of the Affidavit. I don't know who the Landlord is, who the tenant is or who Ralk is. Here's the link to the pdf Affidavit http://www.kirotv.com/download/2009/1002/21186351.pdf
    Red is an assumption on my part. This is very confusing.

    On 08-26-08 investigators saw Golder in McCleary and contacted his about this case. He was asked to relate everything he had done from the time he got up on 06-26-09. He wrote a brief paragraph about going to a neighbor’s house Brinton Bowen’s next door and planting tomatoes and having a BBQ. He said he went home about 9:00pm to watch television, but “passed out” and woke up in the morning. He claimed that he had been home and had not been in the town of McCleary that night. He claimed not to know Lindsey Baum and had never seen her before.


    Further investigation revealed that _________dy (Hardy as in Marc Hardy 1XX N Sand Creek Rd McCleary, WA 98557-9403 name search provides address)
    resides in a shop on his (Brenton or Hardy's not sure which one's) property outside of the town of McCleary. He rents the house on the property to a subject named ???????? either Brenton rents to Hardy or Hardy rent to Brenton), Hardy or Brenton was interviewed and it was learned that he planted his garden near a garden that Golder had planted. Both gardens are located between the house and the shop on the property. Brenton Bowen or Hardy? stated that he had planted his garden the last week of May or the first week of June. He said that Golder had planted his garden weeks before he did. When asked why he was sure of this he said it was because he and Golder had discussed the progress of their tomato plants. He said that his had developed into much better plants than Golders, even though they were planted later. He said that until the evening of Wednesday August 26, 2009 or Thursday August 27, 2009 he had only seen Golder at(looks to be the top of the letter “H” Hardy’s) shop maybe once or twice all summer. He said that after those dates ______ sometimes _____________- _______________ Dale had been at Hardy’s residence talking to him almost every evening. The increased visits coincide with Dale or whoever lives in the shop being interviewed on 08-26-09. Ralke described (Could be Hardy, Brenton Bowen or Dale but I don't think it's Dale) as having some mental issues that may be due to alcohol and or drug abuse. He said he can be manipulated into believing things that did not occur.

    Investigators interviewed the guy with mental issues???. He stated that he had a BBQ on 06-26-09. He said Golder and a woman named Stephanie??? had attended. Investigators believed she had been at Ellensburg, on 06-26-09 when Golder was present. She agreed to meet with investigators in person for an interview.

    So Stephanie Calica was in McCleary on June 26th!

    Y'all please elp me figure this out.
     
  7. seventeenseconds

    seventeenseconds SeventeenSeconds

    Messages:
    358
    Likes Received:
    53
    Trophy Points:
    28
    unless the guy who was kinda mental was directed to give those answers by DG
     
  8. scandi

    scandi New Member

    Messages:
    18,228
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Hi, I'm really tired, but did notice what I think are two typos in that Affidavit:

    1} The beehive is between 5th and 6th on Maple. GH dispatch told me it was between 6th and 7th on the south side of Maple.

    2} It said Dale had been suspended from June 7th 2008 until June 29th 2009. We know that can't be right. That could have been a typo. xox
     
  9. momtective

    momtective Lifetime WS Non-Mod

    Messages:
    12,005
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    38


    Those are not mine...lol...mine are many I'm sure but those are typed just as they are in the Affidavit...
     
  10. lizzysf

    lizzysf Inactive

    Messages:
    1,143
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I doubt she was in McCleary on the 26th..I bet he is confused about the date.. She was probably at his house during the time she was known to be in McCleary.
     
  11. kbitar

    kbitar New Member

    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This guy gets nervous with people driving near his house. He lives around a lot of trees and areas he would be familiar with. I wonder how well that area has been searched around the property line?
     
  12. not_my_kids

    not_my_kids New Member

    Messages:
    12,690
    Likes Received:
    24
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Useless observation warning:
    I find it hard to believe the POI never even saw Lindsey like he says. I mean, McCleary isn't that large and they both live there. You would expect him to at least know the name, at least the last name. I don't know, it just seems like a guilty party's blanket denial of everything. MOO
     
  13. Salem

    Salem Former Member

    Messages:
    29,160
    Likes Received:
    40
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I don't know about this. In the affidavit, she originally said she had not see DG since 2002. After more discussion, she admitted that she had been in McCleary during July.

    The one thing that does backup that she was NOT there are the 50 plus phone calls/texts to her number on June 26th that stopped at 9:26 p.m. So, if this is not SC, then it may be interesting to find out who it was and if the woman lived anywhere near 5th, 6th, Maple or Mommsen Streets.

    Maybe he gave the woman a ride home and that is how he saw Lindsey on her own?

    Salem
     
  14. lizzysf

    lizzysf Inactive

    Messages:
    1,143
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    When I read the affidavit I took it to mean that before seeing him in July she hadn't seen him since 2002. Not that she lied about seeing him. :waitasec: Now that I read it again....it does seem to open that to question.. Did she talk to LE more than once though and later tell them she had since seen him in July? (and she actually hadn't seen him since 2002 during her first talks with LE?...who knows) Sketchy details.
     
  15. Jules71

    Jules71 Active Member

    Messages:
    4,696
    Likes Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    38
    With all the lies by SC and DG, and all the weird stuff on the other forum about posting the SW and explanations... I just feel in my gut he is the one responsible.

    One thing tho is that if SC did tell LE what DG said to her the day after Lindsey went missing - why would they still be involved with eachother? - which IMO they still are (if you read her moods on myspace).
     
  16. coastal

    coastal Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,766
    Likes Received:
    654
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Who does Fish run with, when he isn't working around children or old folks? Does he have some pals who share his interest in cars? Wonder what he does when he isn't working? And, with whom?



    (edited for stupidity)
     
  17. Jules71

    Jules71 Active Member

    Messages:
    4,696
    Likes Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Just thinking.... is it possible for the public to go to the court and get a copy of the complete sw and affidavit without all the names blanked out? Did the media blank them out, or is that the way it is given to the public?
     
  18. Knox

    Knox Wear Pink & Eat Cake ~ Lauren Giddings

    Messages:
    15,107
    Likes Received:
    17,282
    Trophy Points:
    113
    DG's MS has a message from SC on 06/26/09 at 7:30 saying Hi (siting from memory may not be exact). Don't think it was she at the BBQ with DG, timeline doesn't fit.
     
  19. Jules71

    Jules71 Active Member

    Messages:
    4,696
    Likes Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Yes, it was on 6/26 at 6:59 pm and she says "Hi, You".

    I do not believe she is the one at the BBQ.
     
  20. TakeNote

    TakeNote Mother to little post it my boy wonder & Founding

    Messages:
    6,187
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    0
    im not good at looking up address, and such

    so i cant link the info that i found out....and need someone to connect the dots for me :biggrin:

    dale's girlfiends myspace had a comment form travis t and about dales name walters changing ......i believe travis t is dales cousin....i believe his mom is tena's sister-inlaw....and they live accross the street from each other.....could someone look up the parcel and such to say....yes....that is correct :)

    her last name is the color of a cloud w*it*
    first namw starts with t
    :)
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page



  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice