POI: Joseph Brewer #2

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White Rabbit stated,

According to Michael Pak, Shannan was already on the phone with 911 by the time he entered the house.

Shannan had to have dialed 911 after the time Michael Pak entered the house.

These two cannot both be true statements, as they contradict each other. Since I do not believe anything the MP says, I agree Shannan called 911 after MP entered the house. She was deathly afraid of him, and as events have unfolded, justifiably. IMO
 
WINDSOR said:
White Rabbit stated,

According to Michael Pak, Shannan was already on the phone with 911 by the time he entered the house.

Shannan had to have dialed 911 after the time Michael Pak entered the house.

These two cannot both be true statements, as they contradict each other. Since I do not believe anything the MP says, I agree Shannan called 911 after MP entered the house. She was deathly afraid of him, and as events have unfolded, justifiably. IMO
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She wasn’t initially afraid of him. She became afraid of him at a point in time after 4:09 A.M on May 1, 2010.

This leads me to believe that Joseph Brewer assaulted Shannon Gilbert in an attempt to forcibly remove her from the house, and when he was unsuccessful, he recruited Michael Pak to assist him, who also attempted to forcibly remove her from the house, resulting in Shannon taking cover behind the sofa and dialing 911.
 
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White_Rabbit said:
She wasn’t initially afraid of him. She became afraid of him at a point in time after 4:09 A.M on May 1, 2010.

This leads me to believe that Joseph Brewer assaulted Shannon Gilbert in an attempt to forcibly remove her from the house, and when he was unsuccessful, he recruited Michael Pak to assist him, who also attempted to forcibly remove her from the house, resulting in Shannon taking cover behind the sofa and dialing 911.
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You say Brewer assaulted Shannan in an attempt to remove her from the house. I am not so sure that actually occurred. If she was physically assaulted, she never mentioned anything about that to Gus Coletti when she was at his house. The SCPD officer who interviewed GC that morning might have made a comment in his notes if GC mentioned anything.

I am sure if SG was physically assaulted, she would have mentioned it on the 911 call. All the more reason to hear the call.

Side note, if the 911 call mentions Brewer assaulting SG, why did not SCPD not lay charges?
Another motive for the SCPD not wanting the 911 tape released?
 
WINDSOR said:
You say Brewer assaulted Shannan in an attempt to remove her from the house. I am not so sure that actually occurred. If she was physically assaulted, she never mentioned anything about that to Gus Coletti when she was at his house. The SCPD officer who interviewed GC that morning might have made a comment in his notes if GC mentioned anything.

I am sure if SG was physically assaulted, she would have mentioned it on the 911 call. All the more reason to hear the call.

Side note, if the 911 call mentions Brewer assaulting SG, why did not SCPD not lay charges?
Another motive for the SCPD not wanting the 911 tape released?
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“They’re trying to kill me.”
 
The 911 tape of her call needs to be heard by the public. The only reason not to release it would be because they need it for evidence in a case against the perp that may have hurt her. But since the police have stated she ran off into the brush & drowned there possibly high on drugs, etc.....then there is no reason not to release the tape to the public in its entirety.
 
WINDSOR said:
You say Brewer assaulted Shannan in an attempt to remove her from the house. I am not so sure that actually occurred. If she was physically assaulted, she never mentioned anything about that to Gus Coletti when she was at his house. The SCPD officer who interviewed GC that morning might have made a comment in his notes if GC mentioned anything.

I am sure if SG was physically assaulted, she would have mentioned it on the 911 call. All the more reason to hear the call.

Side note, if the 911 call mentions Brewer assaulting SG, why did not SCPD not lay charges?
Another motive for the SCPD not wanting the 911 tape released?
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All due respect to GC and Rip but after that one Interview where he laughs and being PH best friend not sure I trust anything he has said unfortunately.
 
Still waiting, as I'm sure some, or most of us are, for the release of the 911 call, and Megan Waterman video. Harrison supposedly said "...very, very soon," in late March. Harrison: Cops intend to release new Gilgo video, Gilbert 911 call soon (I know, it's behind a pay wall.) Call me impatient, but I was thinking "very, very soon," would mean within a few days. It's April 11th. I check local LI news every day to see if something has been released, yet. So much in there might possibly help us understand more about this case. If the public is the best source of information, we, as the public need to be able to sort things out, and edit/reform/revise our thoughts and theories, as necessary, with these previously unreleased pieces of the larger LISK case. I hope it is soon. Sooner than soon.
 
I believe popup windows need to be enabled to view the videos. I have not heard anything about Shannan, yet. If anyone finds the press conference that was supposed to happen around noon, or info on the tapes, please post! Tyvm
 
It doesn’t seem as if there was a press conference. This wasn’t Publicized.
 
Medic4881 said:
no tapes? I can only find Megan’s videos
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I haven't seen anything posted yet about the Shannan Gilbert-related 911 tapes. I don't know what's happening with that. Hoping someone who is closer to the general area may get some info on local news. I am glad Megan's videos have been posted. It's gonna take a little while to watch all of them. But, in the end one, I did not see her as fleeing...just walking at a normal to quick pace. IMO
 
Bose said:
I haven't seen anything posted yet about the Shannan Gilbert-related 911 tapes. I don't know what's happening with that. Hoping someone who is closer to the general area may get some info on local news. I am glad Megan's videos have been posted. It's gonna take a little while to watch all of them. But, in the end one, I did not see her as fleeing...just walking at a normal to quick pace. IMO
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Agreed she wasn’t fleeing. I’m local. I will post if I see or hear anything.
 
Bose said:
I haven't seen anything posted yet about the Shannan Gilbert-related 911 tapes. I don't know what's happening with that. Hoping someone who is closer to the general area may get some info on local news. I am glad Megan's videos have been posted. It's gonna take a little while to watch all of them. But, in the end one, I did not see her as fleeing...just walking at a normal to quick pace. IMO
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She looks normal going for a walk leaving the hotel. LISK probably asked her to meet up at his car in a disclosed location down the street.

Imo, LISK might have been with the GB4 several times to have them drop their guard & at least one of them left their cellphone behind, that's insane in the escort business not to have your phone with you that could mean life or death.

One things for sure, LISK is a very smooth talker & manipulator to get what he wants.
 
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