Possible matches for UID Longview, TX woman

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  1. mandiedq

    mandiedq New Member

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    Please post possible matches and status of match.

    If possible, update your first post with latest information to simplify the information stream. Thanks!


    Excluded:
    Clara Giusti
    Michelle Giusti
    Parley Pate
     
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  3. mandiedq

    mandiedq New Member

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    Kim Mallon - suggested match to LE/NamUs/reporter from Seattle article on 7/10/13.

    Response from reporter 7/11/13 acknowledging receipt.
     
  4. ClaireNC

    ClaireNC Well-Known Member

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    Here is a list of possible matches that have been discussed here. They are grouped in terms of status, Ruled out by NamUs, Submitted, To Be Submitted, Mentioned, and Ruled Out by WS Members.

    Using the NamUs format of first name, last name, birth year and state last known alive.

    Starting with those already ruled-out on Namus:
    Clara Giusti 1962 Washington
    Michelle Giusti 1961 Washington
    Parley Pate 1959 North Carolina
    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/9863

    Submitted:
    Sheri Lynn Johnson 1970 Missouri http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/j/johnson_sheri.html
    Rose Lena Cole 1956 California http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cole_rose.html and http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2368dfca.html
    Kim Mallon 1960 California https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/4628 http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mallon_kim.html


    To be Submitted:
    Jennifer Wictor 1967 Arizona https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/4925/29 http://doenetwork.org/cases/2994dfaz.html
    Cynthia Lorraine Perry 1968 North Carolina http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...y_cynthia.html
    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/show/8281

    Other possible matches mentioned here:
    Melissa Sue Highsmith 1969 Texas http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/highsmith_melissa.html
    Cheryl Schille Wyant 1964 California http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1787dfwa.html
    Stacey Lee Lynch 1961 Calfornia http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lynch_stacey.html and http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1080dfca.html Comments: height fits
    Lori Lee Berens 1964 Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada http://doenetwork.org/cases/349dfmb.html and http://www.nampn.org/cases/berens_lori.html
    Susan Renee Smally 1969 Texas http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/smalley_susan.html
    Judy Ann Gary 1966 Louisiana http://doenetwork.org/cases/1537dfla.html and http://identifyla.lsu.edu/profile.php?id=170
    Julie A Guthrie 1971 New York http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/guthrie_julie.html
    Mary L Day 1968 California http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/day_mary.html
    Debra Jean Cole 1969 Indiana http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cole_debra.html seems to be listed as deceased http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=13698527
    Suzanne M Schultz 1961 Wisconsin http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/schultz_suzanne.html
    Martha Leanne Green 1970 Tennessee http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/green_martha.html http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US
    Robin Marlow 1954 Florida http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/marlow_robin.html and https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/11352/0/
    Kelly Bergh Dove 1961 Virginia http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dove_kelly.html (reported height is way off)
    Donna Mae Jokumsen Arizona http://www.missingin.org/reg1345/donna_mae_jokumsen.htm Had shoulder tattoo that might rule her out.
    Judith Ann Ellwell 1962 Oklahoma http://charleyproject.org/cases/e/elwell_judith.html
    Leslie Anne Martin Porter 1959 California http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/porter_leslie.html https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/3019 (not tall enough)
    Michelle Leone Duncan 1966 California http://doenetwork.org/cases/861dfca.html https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/5440
    Melinda Karen Creech 1965 Indiana http://doenetwork.org/cases/1297dfin.html http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/creech_melinda.html (hair color off)
    Christie Lynn Farni 1972 Oregon http://doenetwork.org/cases/706dfor.html Rule out on speech impediment? Though back story might fit.

    Discussed and ruled out:
    The story of the potential abduction http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/66uffl.html
    Status: Timeline is off. LEK had already established a new identity in 1988, so why would she have been in danger in 1989? LEK was establishing her life in Texas by that time. Remarkable likeness, but not her.

    Anne Fahey https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8229 last seen in 1996. Timeline does not fit with FLEK

    Gayla Barnes 1956 Colorado https://www.colorado.gov/apps/coldcase/casedetail.html?id=2201 and https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/7170/4/ Status: Timeline is off, Gayla was last seen in 1990 when FLEK was already established in Texas.

    Lisa Dickinson 1967 California http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/802dfca.html (Foul play is suspected) Wrong eye color, hair color (blue/blonde) listed as blonde hair, but she was 9 years old when she went missing, often hair darkens as people age. The bridge of the nose is wider (however, her age and also the possible nose job would fix that), the distance between her eyes is wider. She also has the nasolabial folds that Lori Ruff does NOT have. Lori Ruff was pretty wide in the mouth/nose area, leading to nothing in the way of nasolabial folds that some people have. She actually has a unique shape to her face and mouth in some ways. http://www.walnut-creek.org/citygov/depts/police/cold_case_investigations/dickinson_kidnapping.asp

    Sherry Lynn Marler 1971 Alabama http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/marler_sherry.html http://doenetwork.org/cases/215dfal.html
    Timing is off, she was 12when she dissappeared from south AL in 1984. The age is off, unlikely that a 16 yr old from AL would have the smarts to make it to the Pacific NW and change her identity.

    Alice Pereira 1967 New York http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/134dfny.html Unlikely, since she was last seen with a known child murderer, Andre Rand, who is currently serving time.

    Shelly Anne Bacsu 1967 Alberta, Canada http://doenetwork.org/cases/28dfab.html Had hearing impairment and rheumatoid arthritis.

    Nancy Debra Willis, 1961, Tennessee http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/willis_nancy.html https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/12567/0/ Looks considerably different than LEK, has much fuller lips. It seems unlikely that's her. Also had leg fractured in about 8 places, so would have scars/a limp that LEK did not have. Husband was charged in other murders, and he is considered a suspect in this case.

    Cindy Irene King, 1961, Oregon, http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/king_cindy.html http://doenetwork.org/cases/1640dfor.html Reported height is off, teeth, tattoo.
     
  5. tiffay01

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    Oh man this makes it so much easier to reference back too! Thank you!
     
  6. ClaireNC

    ClaireNC Well-Known Member

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    Linda9681 New Member

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    Today I found something interesting. Did they rule out Melissa Highsmith for our FLEK? Well this is related to that. In regards to the babysitter who took Melissa, " Ruth Johnson", I ran across a newspaper article online today listing a missing person by the name of
    "Shirley Banning" from Oklahoma. Her picture in my opinion looks like the drawing of Ruth.
    http://www.kjrh.com/gallery/news/ne...tip-leads-to-arkansas-well-in-tulsa-cold-case


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    Here is the drawing from the missing person flyer
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    Eye color is listed as being brown, and she was 12 when missing, so height could be variable.

    Look at left ear (sticks out further than right) and compare the hair wisps to the Idaho ID of FLEK, and something about the expression also. I think the Idaho ID also looks like she is tilting her head back to try to keep her eyes open during the flash also...

    Link to Mary Ann:
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hogland-mccluskey_mary.html
     
  10. jessica-

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    Lori has always looked kind of like Danielle Boisevert.

    https://secure.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/missing-disparus/case-dossier.jsf?case=2012020106&id=6

    Height is off and she has hazel eyes, is it possible she could have grown after 18 as I'm sure a female reaches height by 16 right? Anyways you're all the super sleuths so here's the side by side.


    What do you think?

    She went missing in 1979
    Would fit the age profile
    Brown eyes, although the UID has hazel eyes and they tend to look brown to me.
    Height is off Danielle is 5'3 UID 5'7 OR 5'8
     

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  11. bluenoser

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    I just read her story for the first time today so I don't know anything to even qualify to answer, but to me, that looks very much like her. I asked my son as well and he agrees!
     
  12. AngelaE8654

    AngelaE8654 Angela from Aberdeen

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    Every female that *I* have known, including my best friend who is 5'10" and my husband's daughter who is also 5'10" were "at height" by our early teens. I don't know any girls who grew significantly after 15 or 16 and most girls were "at height" by 16. I doubt that a woman who is the average height for females in her teens would sprout up to 5'10" at 18. This girl doesn't have the "teeth clenched" smile, either. My mom supposedly has hazel eyes but they have always looked brown to me.
     
  13. Linda9681

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    http://vimeo.com/40394699

    screen shot attached
     

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    I don't think it looks anything like her. Most notable is that her lips are too full, and her chin more pointed and not as round.
     
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    Yes. I see that in the second pic that was posted. Thanks for your input.

    Should I delete so It doesn't clog up the thread?
     
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    Just a thought for people trying to find matching cases. If there is such a thing as a missing person case for Jane Doe, I don't think we can make the assumption that it has to be from before 1988.

    There doesn't seem to be any evidence she actually lived as LEK prior to fall 1990, when she enrolled in college. If this was a convenience identity change (for example to erase a criminal record so that she could attend college or apply for higher income jobs), she could have arranged for her new identity long before she actually assumed it in her daily life. She may have simply kept her new papers in reserve for when the time would have been right. For example, nothing would have stopped her from taking a GED test as LEK, while still working as a waitress called Mary Jones, saving money for her planned new life.

    I'm not saying it happened that way, but at this point we can't prove that she stopped living her old life the moment she received her blank slate identity.
     
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    I agree and have had the same thoughts!
     
  18. Liebchenmutti

    Liebchenmutti Verified Juanette!

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    Has Lisa Jean Somerton been listed?

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/722dfon.html

    Vital Statistics

    Date Of Birth: October 30, 1966
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 23 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'8"; 110 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Reddish brown, long hair; blue/brown eyes. She has a slim build and a fair complexion.

    Circumstances of Disappearance
    Lisa Somerton was to be a witness against an ex-boyfriend who was charged with assaulting her.

    The police investigation into her disappearance determined she may have become depressed over having to testify and decided to run away. Without Somerton's testimony, the charges against her ex-boyfriend were withdrawn.

    At the time, her family said it would be surprising for her to leave without eventually making contact.

    Years later a former high school friend came forward to insist she'd been seen at an amusement park in North Carolina. The sighting was never confirmed.
     
  19. MrsTigglesworth

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    The girl above should definitely be added to our list. Are there any other pics of her online? The timeline and stats fit pretty perfectly. She looks like her just about as much as any of the other submitted missing women I have seen! If anyone has Canadian access on ancestry, perhaps we can find yearbook pics?
    Good find. :)

    It looks like Lisa's parents have offered DNA from an article, but I cannot tell if fingerprints and DNA are on file.
     
  20. ClaireNC

    ClaireNC Well-Known Member

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    Here is the updated list of possible matches that have been discussed here.

    They are listed here in terms of status: Ruled out by NamUs, Submitted, To Be Submitted, Mentioned, and Ruled Out by WS Members.

    Using the NamUs format of first name, last name, birth year and state last known alive.

    Starting with those already ruled-out on Namus:
    Clara Giusti 1962 Washington
    Michelle Giusti 1961 Washington
    Parley Pate 1959 North Carolina
    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/9863

    Submitted:
    Sheri Lynn Johnson 1970 Missouri http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/j/johnson_sheri.html
    Rose Lena Cole 1956 California http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cole_rose.html and http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2368dfca.html
    Kim Mallon 1960 California https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/4628 http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mallon_kim.html


    To be Submitted:
    Jennifer Wictor 1967 Arizona https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/4925/29 http://doenetwork.org/cases/2994dfaz.html
    Cynthia Lorraine Perry 1968 North Carolina http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...y_cynthia.html
    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/show/8281

    Other possible matches mentioned here:
    Melissa Sue Highsmith 1969 Texas http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/highsmith_melissa.html
    Cheryl Schille Wyant 1964 California http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1787dfwa.html
    Stacey Lee Lynch 1961 Calfornia http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lynch_stacey.html and http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1080dfca.html Comments: height fits
    Lori Lee Berens 1964 Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada http://doenetwork.org/cases/349dfmb.html and http://www.nampn.org/cases/berens_lori.html
    Susan Renee Smally 1969 Texas http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/smalley_susan.html
    Judy Ann Gary 1966 Louisiana http://doenetwork.org/cases/1537dfla.html and http://identifyla.lsu.edu/profile.php?id=170
    Julie A Guthrie 1971 New York http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/guthrie_julie.html
    Mary L Day 1968 California http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/day_mary.html
    Debra Jean Cole 1969 Indiana http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/cole_debra.html seems to be listed as deceased http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=13698527
    Suzanne M Schultz 1961 Wisconsin http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/schultz_suzanne.html
    Martha Leanne Green 1970 Tennessee http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/green_martha.html http://www.missingkids.com/missingk...NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US
    Robin Marlow 1954 Florida http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/marlow_robin.html and https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/11352/0/
    Kelly Bergh Dove 1961 Virginia http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dove_kelly.html (reported height is way off)
    Donna Mae Jokumsen Arizona http://www.missingin.org/reg1345/donna_mae_jokumsen.htm Had shoulder tattoo that might rule her out.
    Judith Ann Ellwell 1962 Oklahoma http://charleyproject.org/cases/e/elwell_judith.html
    Leslie Anne Martin Porter 1959 California http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/porter_leslie.html https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/3019 (not tall enough)
    Michelle Leone Duncan 1966 California http://doenetwork.org/cases/861dfca.html https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/5440
    Melinda Karen Creech 1965 Indiana http://doenetwork.org/cases/1297dfin.html http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/creech_melinda.html (hair color off)
    Christie Lynn Farni 1972 Oregon http://doenetwork.org/cases/706dfor.html Rule out on speech impediment? Though back story might fit.
    Deborah Ann Hohenshilt 1962 Florida http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hohenshilt_deborah.html http://doenetwork.org/cases/358dffl.html Eye color different. mostly agreed that her circumstances lean toward murder.
    Lisa Jean Somerton 1966 Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/722dfon.html Timing is right, but listed as 5’8” with a slight build and reddish brown hair.
    Danielle Boisevert 1961 Montreal-North, Quebec. Canada http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/733dfqc.html Listed height is way off just 5’3”.
    Mary Ann Hogland-McClusky 1968 California http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hogland-mccluskey_mary.html Wrong hair color, described as having a pear-shaped figure and wearing a b-cup bra when she was just 12 years old.


    Discussed and ruled out:
    The story of the potential abduction http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/66uffl.html
    Status: Timeline is off. LEK had already established a new identity in 1988, so why would she have been in danger in 1989? LEK was establishing her life in Texas by that time. Remarkable likeness, but not her.

    Anne Fahey https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8229 last seen in 1996. Timeline does not fit with FLEK

    Gayla Barnes 1956 Colorado https://www.colorado.gov/apps/coldcase/casedetail.html?id=2201 and https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/7170/4/ Status: Timeline is off, Gayla was last seen in 1990 when FLEK was already established in Texas.

    Lisa Dickinson 1967 California http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/802dfca.html (Foul play is suspected) Wrong eye color, hair color (blue/blonde) listed as blonde hair, but she was 9 years old when she went missing, often hair darkens as people age. The bridge of the nose is wider (however, her age and also the possible nose job would fix that), the distance between her eyes is wider. She also has the nasolabial folds that Lori Ruff does NOT have. Lori Ruff was pretty wide in the mouth/nose area, leading to nothing in the way of nasolabial folds that some people have. She actually has a unique shape to her face and mouth in some ways. http://www.walnut-creek.org/citygov/depts/police/cold_case_investigations/dickinson_kidnapping.asp

    Sherry Lynn Marler 1971 Alabama http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/marler_sherry.html http://doenetwork.org/cases/215dfal.html
    Timing is off, she was 12when she dissappeared from south AL in 1984. The age is off, unlikely that a 16 yr old from AL would have the smarts to make it to the Pacific NW and change her identity.

    Alice Pereira 1967 New York http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/134dfny.html Unlikely, since she was last seen with a known child murderer, Andre Rand, who is currently serving time.

    Shelly Anne Bacsu 1967 Alberta, Canada http://doenetwork.org/cases/28dfab.html Had hearing impairment and rheumatoid arthritis.

    Nancy Debra Willis, 1961, Tennessee http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/willis_nancy.html https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/12567/0/ Looks considerably different than LEK, has much fuller lips. It seems unlikely that's her. Also had leg fractured in about 8 places, so would have scars/a limp that LEK did not have. Husband was charged in other murders, and he is considered a suspect in this case.

    Cindy Irene King, 1961, Oregon, http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/king_cindy.html http://doenetwork.org/cases/1640dfor.html Reported height is off, teeth, tattoo.
     
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