Possible Victim: Shannan Gilbert #2

Discussion in 'Long Island Serial Killer' started by shadowraiths, Jan 13, 2017.

  1. ListeningAndWatching

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    I’m watching this glossed over version that they are airing right now, finding it only slightly less INaccurate than the streaming service version, and am so very sick of the distortions of truth/minimizations of blame/composite character creations for fictionalization (for purposes of big screen packaging). These were women who went through hell and never got justice, and with the sensationalization caused by each new LISK film the entertainment industry is increasingly turning the cases more and more like some made up episode of CSI instead of what it is really at its core, deeply disturbing sexual violence, organized financial abuse and exploitation, conspiracy, corruption and misogyny taken to its furthest level (murder) for which no one has been held accountable. The industry needs to stop all the BS.
     
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  2. ListeningAndWatching

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    This movie...
    In what alternate reality/universe did Mari get to hear her daughter’s 9-1-1 call?
    Of all things to fictionalize, they choose THAT.
    Very, very disappointing, but can’t say I’m surprised in the least.
     
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  3. Tusitala

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    I could not finish watching this latest travesty, the inaccuracies and outright fabrications were so over the top. I am freshly outraged at the continuing injustice to which these women have been subjected, marginalized, ignored and forgotten.
     
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    This scene sent me over the edge, complete and total LIE, blatant sensationalism, my blood was boiling. Shannan and her mother have been victimized beyond endurance.
     
  5. Blueeyedbrowngirl

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    The money spent on that piece of revisionist history could’ve been used to produce an up to date documentary with a push for more evidence to be shared with the public. Deborah Norville publicized the film for two solid months before its release and she sure dropped the ball on this one.
     
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  6. Fredd3039

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    Shannans mother stated that Hacket told her that Shannan gave him her mothers phone number as a next of kin type contact. Hacket said his troubled girls home required it. Interestingly enough when Shannan was in another home in the area she wanted to call 911 not speak to anyone about sheltering her.
     
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  7. OnTheCase27

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    I’ve never heard this. Do you have a source? I’ve only ever read that Hackett got her number from AD Shannon’s boyfriend.
     
  8. Fredd3039

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    SERIAL KILLER: L.I.S.K. PODCAST on Crime Junkie, Iheart Radio
    April 15, 2018 • 56 min
    Shannons mother states that she received a call from Dr. Hacket and he asked her if Shannon made it home ok. The mother said she had no idea Shannon was missing until Hacket called her. If you watch "Long Island Serial Killer" on A&E Crime Central, Alex Diaz states, on camera, that he had not heard from Shannon in two days, and that is when he reached out to PaK and Shannans sister to find out what was going on. He was not there searching for her and telling Hacket to call her mother.
     
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    Fear and loathing in Las Vegas has lots of people losing it on drugs. Also a girl tripping on LSD being raped.

    So that could be on to something...
     
  10. Fredd3039

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    I heard somewhere that when Shannans body was found her skeleton was complete with the exception of the hyoid bone. The hyoid bone was missing. Can anyone point me to a credible source as to weather this is true?
     
  11. 516witchdoctors

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    Some of your information is false. She worked under a bunch of shell corporations under the same umbrella. That’s how that escort industry worked to cover its tracks, it actually has a lot in common with the tri state security industry in that regard.
    Shannon had been to Long Island on at least 10 other occasions that I can personally recall as well as information John Ray dug up. Was she ever at Oak Beach? That I don’t know.
     
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    Thanks
     
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  13. WINDSOR

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    516witchdoctor you posted this on another thread, "How do I know? I worked for the same company and did work with Shannon in 2009 on Long Island. I heard rumors about Pak after LISK from people I knew from that industry when asking around."
    Thanks
     
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  14. 516witchdoctors

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    Yes late 2008-2009. She had a surgery in late 2009 before she started working again and I guess at that point linked up with Pak for whatever reason. Something tells me he took less money and she was able to have more control over the monetary gain. He also had a lot of connections in Queens and maybe used him to broaden there.
     
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    Welcome to Ws Fredd3039!
    Report: Shannan Gilbert could have been strangled - CNN
    2016 rbbm.
    “There is insufficient information to determine a definite cause of death, but the autopsy findings are consistent with homicidal strangulation,” Baden wrote in the report released Thursday.

    Baden wrote that nearly all of Gilbert’s recovered skeletal remains appeared normal but the “larynx was missing and only the body of the hyoid bone was found; the two greater horns of that neck bone were missing. These structures, the larynx and the hyoid bone, are often fractured during homicidal manual strangulation.”
     
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  16. LIThrow

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    I have to say I find it less than 1% believable that Shannon and Brewer were not doing cocaine: two known cocaine users, "partying" on a paid date until 4 a.m. and not on coke? If you were only drinking or smoking weed you'd pass out and want to go to bed by then. If you are an escort who likes coke the absolute number one time you will do it is on a date. And where else did Brewer and Shannon go for 15 minutes by car...why was he allowed to not tell the police on that?
     
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    This case sounds like an insider from police did the crime
     
  18. Jimmytoast

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    Anyone know anything about George Hesse? He is the chief (like james Burke) of another Long Island / fire island beach community, ocean beach. He, like Burke, also has police brutality cases (assaulting victims), drinking, doing drugs & having sex with sex workers while on duty and is just southeast of oak beach. Not saying he is LISK but he’s got the same reputation as Burke and I wouldn’t be surprised if he were involved.
     

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