Possible Victim: Shannan Gilbert #2

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Are you ready for the Mari Gilbert story:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sarah-paulson-star-serial-killer-film-lost-girls-970825

You can be certain it will include all of yours and Mari's favorite conspiracy theories.

"Documentarian Liz Garbus is making her narrative feature film directing debut on “Lost Girls.”"


Liz Garbus also directed (among other things) the 2011 HBO documentary "There's Something Wrong With Aunt Diane"

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/25/a...hing-wrong-with-aunt-diane-on-hbo-review.html

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0305017/?ref_=tt_ov_dr
 
"Documentarian Liz Garbus is making her narrative feature film directing debut on “Lost Girls.”"


Liz Garbus also directed (among other things) the 2011 HBO documentary "There's Something Wrong With Aunt Diane"

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/25/a...hing-wrong-with-aunt-diane-on-hbo-review.html

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0305017/?ref_=tt_ov_dr
That documentary was haunting but it was poorly done, I wasn't impressed. I mean the story is horrific but the documentary wasn't any good, so I don't think the movie will be great. Film is dead anyway. What surprises me is how Mari Gilbert's missing teeth and all constant bludgeoning of this case wherever she could be heard has effectively made this the Shannen Gilbert story.
 
That documentary was haunting but it was poorly done, I wasn't impressed. I mean the story is horrific but the documentary wasn't any good, so I don't think the movie will be great. Film is dead anyway. What surprises me is how Mari Gilbert's missing teeth and all constant bludgeoning of this case wherever she could be heard has effectively made this the Shannen Gilbert story.

Personally, I thought that documentary was very well done. I will look forward to the movie. I just love Sarah Paulson.

Not sure what MGs teeth have to do with anything, but IMO without her and her quest to find SG this wouldn't even be a story.
 
That documentary was haunting but it was poorly done, I wasn't impressed. I mean the story is horrific but the documentary wasn't any good, so I don't think the movie will be great. Film is dead anyway. What surprises me is how Mari Gilbert's missing teeth and all constant bludgeoning of this case wherever she could be heard has effectively made this the Shannen Gilbert story.

I assume you believe yourself clever in sharing this info (about the film and Sarah Paulson). As apparently it's just a new topic to fuel your anti-Gilbert sentiments. Being so anti-Gilbert... one would think you'd just ignore this news, certainly not share it here.
 
The judge must believe "something" in the case against Hackett. Wonder what it could be??
Its hard to know what was said to Mari. Ex. Some people dont take what you say at face value. Instead they interpet what you said. And then they state that interpetation as fact.
 
Its hard to know what was said to Mari. Ex. Some people dont take what you say at face value. Instead they interpet what you said. And then they state that interpetation as fact.
And this is how information gets twisted up. Way to go deedee!

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Its hard to know what was said to Mari. Ex. Some people dont take what you say at face value. Instead they interpet what you said. And then they state that interpetation as fact.

Wouldn't ya' think the judge understands this type of thing (as you describe) as well as recognizing hearsay, rumors, etc... thus easily tossing the case out? It seems the case against Hackett continues on despite all his supposed haplessness, being a patsy, heroism-desire. That's why I think there's something that must hold weight in court. I'm perplexed by it to say the least.
 
I know some sleuthers were wanting to see this and I found a snippet of it so I posted the link. I found it interesting how Pak couldn't remember what Shannan said at one point...when people lie they often forget the details of the story they are telling because its not a true memory they have to remember it like a script. I think Pak is lying but for what purpose I don't know...
https://vimeo.com/57106647?ref=em-v-share
 
I know some sleuthers were wanting to see this and I found a snippet of it so I posted the link. I found it interesting how Pak couldn't remember what Shannan said at one point...when people lie they often forget the details of the story they are telling because its not a true memory they have to remember it like a script. I think Pak is lying but for what purpose I don't know...
https://vimeo.com/57106647?ref=em-v-share
Do we have a poster here from the UK. Perhaps they can post the documentary here for us. Its A&E Americas serial killer. Put it on youtube.
 
Do we have a poster here from the UK. Perhaps they can post the documentary here for us. Its A&E Americas serial killer. Put it on youtube.

Ive been trying forever to find that full UK documentary. From reading kolkers book it sounded like it was the very first one made. While he was conducting interviews for his book, the UK team was there making the doc.
 
Great find .....I have been trying to find that A&E Special with no luck would love to see the whole special ....i have never heard MPak do an interview
 
Does anyone recall when PCH began denying making the call to MG?

I'm asking because...let's just say he did call her to just insert himself into the case, like he has in the past. (Thinking this was only a missing persons case & wanted to be part of it.)

Then, once the bodies started being located he knew he had gotten over his head by inserting himself into the case and tried to back out by denying making the call?

If it was before the bodies were found, then my theory goes out the window. If it was after... it's something to consider?




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Does anyone recall when PCH began denying making the call to MG?

I'm asking because...let's just say he did call her to just insert himself into the case, like he has in the past. (Thinking this was only a missing persons case & wanted to be part of it.)

Then, once the bodies started being located he knew he had gotten over his head by inserting himself into the case and tried to back out by denying making the call?

If it was before the bodies were found, then my theory goes out the window. If it was after... it's something to consider?




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I believe it was immediately. That SG's family went down there after he called Mari and he denied everything
 
Does anyone recall when PCH began denying making the call to MG?

I'm asking because...let's just say he did call her to just insert himself into the case, like he has in the past. (Thinking this was only a missing persons case & wanted to be part of it.)

Then, once the bodies started being located he knew he had gotten over his head by inserting himself into the case and tried to back out by denying making the call?

If it was before the bodies were found, then my theory goes out the window. If it was after... it's something to consider?




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I was just reading this older thread about this very topic today (I'm a newer sleuth trying to read up on all of the great work that has been done on here over the years). Lots of rich details in there:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?144551-Let-s-talk-about-the-letters
 
I've spent much of this weekend searching the web and watching different documentaries re Shannon and the GB4.A couple of things stood out to me, the first is the timeline of the GB4 disappearances and Shannon Gilberts disappearance, how the killer modified his MO after the killing of Maureen, Melissa and Shannon and comments made by Mr Kolker re his thoughts on the GB4s killer. First, the timeline of the deaths of the GB4 and Shannon's death at Oak beach over lap and the killers MO changed after Shannon's death. By this I mean, that Maureen died in 2007,Melissa 2009,Shannon May 2010,Megan June 2010, and Amber Sept,2010.so that means that after the well publicized disappearance Shannon in May of 2010 LISK was brave enough to kill two more Craig's list girls and then either return to Gilgo beach to deposit Megan and Ambers bodies on the beach or go to Gilgo and deposit all four of the GB4 victims bodies on the beach. You would think if LISK was making multiple trips to Gilgo to deposit bodies after Shannon's death he would need to be someone pretty local who would know when it was safe to do this ie when LE would not be on the scene or when most locals would be off the road for the night or he was /is someone who's presence at or near Gilgo would not seem out of place. I've read a couple of times that LE believes LISK may have stored or buried some of the GB4 before leaving them at Gilgo, so this could mean that LISK may have driven to Gilgo with at least 4 bodies in his car or truck to deposit them on the beach even if that is not the case the fact that he went to Gilgo after Shannon's disappearance to leave Amber and Megan at the beach must mean he is pretty confident his presence on the road to Gilgo wouldn't seem out of place or be questioned by anyone.Also,LISK used Maureen, Melissa and Shannon's cell phones to call and taunt their family members and friends,, these call are the closet LE has come to pinpointing who LISK is. After the calls to Shannon's family LISK changed his MO and convinced Amber and Megan to meet him and leave their cellphones behind .According to the docs I watched this weekend and Mr Kolker, LISK groomed Amber and Megan by making multiple calls to them in the hours before they met him and somehow convinced them it was safe or necessary for them to meet him without their phones. Who could he be that he could get these girls to let their guard down so completely with him?.At this point LISK was smart enough or had inside knowledge of LE attempts to trace his calls that he knew the phone calls were his Achilles heel and he stopped them cold turkey. Of course al of this is just my opinion and even if you leave Shannon out of the GB4 equation LISK's behaviours show him to be someone very confident in his ability to move freely around Gilgo and smart enough or to have insider info to know when LE is onto him.it seems pretty clear LISK must be a local with strong ties to LE and in a profession that made these girls feel very very safe with him.
 
I've spent much of this weekend searching the web and watching different documentaries re Shannon and the GB4.A couple of things stood out to me, the first is the timeline of the GB4 disappearances and Shannon Gilberts disappearance, how the killer modified his MO after the killing of Maureen, Melissa and Shannon and comments made by Mr Kolker re his thoughts on the GB4s killer. First, the timeline of the deaths of the GB4 and Shannon's death at Oak beach over lap and the killers MO changed after Shannon's death. By this I mean, that Maureen died in 2007,Melissa 2009,Shannon May 2010,Megan June 2010, and Amber Sept,2010.so that means that after the well publicized disappearance Shannon in May of 2010 LISK was brave enough to kill two more Craig's list girls and then either return to Gilgo beach to deposit Megan and Ambers bodies on the beach or go to Gilgo and deposit all four of the GB4 victims bodies on the beach. You would think if LISK was making multiple trips to Gilgo to deposit bodies after Shannon's death he would need to be someone pretty local who would know when it was safe to do this ie when LE would not be on the scene or when most locals would be off the road for the night or he was /is someone who's presence at or near Gilgo would not seem out of place. I've read a couple of times that LE believes LISK may have stored or buried some of the GB4 before leaving them at Gilgo, so this could mean that LISK may have driven to Gilgo with at least 4 bodies in his car or truck to deposit them on the beach even if that is not the case the fact that he went to Gilgo after Shannon's disappearance to leave Amber and Megan at the beach must mean he is pretty confident his presence on the road to Gilgo wouldn't seem out of place or be questioned by anyone.Also,LISK used Maureen, Melissa and Shannon's cell phones to call and taunt their family members and friends,, these call are the closet LE has come to pinpointing who LISK is. After the calls to Shannon's family LISK changed his MO and convinced Amber and Megan to meet him and leave their cellphones behind .According to the docs I watched this weekend and Mr Kolker, LISK groomed Amber and Megan by making multiple calls to them in the hours before they met him and somehow convinced them it was safe or necessary for them to meet him without their phones. Who could he be that he could get these girls to let their guard down so completely with him?.At this point LISK was smart enough or had inside knowledge of LE attempts to trace his calls that he knew the phone calls were his Achilles heel and he stopped them cold turkey. Of course al of this is just my opinion and even if you leave Shannon out of the GB4 equation LISK's behaviours show him to be someone very confident in his ability to move freely around Gilgo and smart enough or to have insider info to know when LE is onto him.it seems pretty clear LISK must be a local with strong ties to LE and in a profession that made these girls feel very very safe with him.
Impressive read

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I assume MP was a driver for other escorts? I wonder if they were ever contacted... and was Diaz officially in the business too?
 
Shannon and Diaz supposedly met while they were both working for an escort agency before she decided to go independent.
I assume MP was a driver for other escorts? I wonder if they were ever contacted... and was Diaz officially in the business too?
 
Ive been trying forever to find that full UK documentary. From reading kolkers book it sounded like it was the very first one made. While he was conducting interviews for his book, the UK team was there making the doc.
someone from the UK can put it up. Under a different name so it does not get yanked.
 
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