Possible Victims: Iowa

Discussion in 'Deaths of Male College Students/The River Killers' started by SeriouslySearching, Apr 27, 2008.

  1. SuziQ

    SuziQ Well-Known Member

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    Blink, thanks for the update. One of the articles about Justin stated he was found on concrete. I assumed that it was dry, but I don't know. Interesting about the COD. I say keep him in the list until we know more.
     


  2. SeriouslySearching

    SeriouslySearching Well-Known Member

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    Was it another case or am I dreaming? I thought I saw water in that culvert in some photo.
     
  3. Blink34

    Blink34 Former Member

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    No SS,I think your correct, I believe it was his case, and IIRC, the recovery team had hip waders on.
     
  4. cheko1

    cheko1 Well-Known Member

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    Brother this doesn't sound good at all........Clinton Ia is located right on the Mississippi River. I was born & raised near Davenport lived there 36 yrs.
     
  5. Blink34

    Blink34 Former Member

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    Anyone able to locate where his shoes were found?
     
  6. Grainne Dhu

    Grainne Dhu Active Member

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    I live outside Grinnell and helped with the search for this poor young man. It was never a search for a living person; everyone but the family was convinced from the beginning that it was a search for the body of a suicide victim.

    It wasn't just the suicide note. He'd been talking about suicide and suicide methods to several people on campus in the short month he'd been there.

    The search included the pool because he had mentioned to one person (I think it was his roommate but can't recall for sure) that if someone were to want to commit suicide, a pool closed for the winter might be one method.

    The pool cover is *huge* and it takes a minimum of ten people working together to remove it. During the search, someone noticed a long slit in the cover and several searchers did unfasten that corner and look under it. The pool cover was worn and had a fair amount of duct tape repairs, so another slit didn't seem out of place (Iowa winters are hard on equipment).

    I doubt that this poor young man was one of the murder victims, it just stretches the bounds of credibility too far. He'd talked about suicide, he'd talked about closed swimming pools as a suicide method, he left a suicide note and he was found in a swimming pool--it's hard to believe that a murderer (or group of them) would stumble across this young man and then carry out what he had already talked about.
     
  7. fran

    fran Former Member

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    Welcome to Websleuths, Grainne Dhu!

    Thank you for the information. What you say makes sense and since you were there when it happened, you should know these for facts.

    I hope it didn't offend you that we included this young man's name in our list. You see we don't have the file information, just what has been in print. We know that some of them are isolated incidents, ie suicide, accident, or local person. It's just when you put the sheer volume of the cases, it seems unreasonable that this could happen, over and over and over and over, well, you see my point.

    It's sad when anyone sees no alternative to their struggles but to commit suicide. It's especially sad when it is such a young person who by all appearances, had much to live for.

    JMHO
    fran
     
  8. Grainne Dhu

    Grainne Dhu Active Member

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    Oh, no, I hope I didn't give that impression! I was just hoping to clarify the situation a little.

    What was being said on the ground was a bit different from what was reported in the papers. I'm sure it was difficult for the reporters because the family was so set on believing that he was lost or had taken off to go somewhere else.

    Which is understandable--hope, no matter how far fetched, is easier than believing that your child decided to die.

    It was a very sad situation; my impression was that he was a very likeable young man with, as you noted, everything to live for. His own mind was what was trapping him.

    The other students that he'd had contact with were also victims; I'm sure they will go to their graves wondering if they should have done something or told someone. I don't think they have anything to blame themselves for because it was clear he wasn't threatening suicide, he said those things in a very detached manner. It just seemed speculative and I'm sure millions of college students have said much the same sorts of things and never had suicide in mind at all.

    All in all, a tragedy.
     
  9. Blink34

    Blink34 Former Member

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    Blink34 Former Member

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    Very interested to know if Ben's shoes were found onshore, or other, and if they were tied.
    If anyone knows please post.
     
  11. nursebeeme

    nursebeeme Registered User

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    http://www.kcci.com/news/22411734/detail.html


    and (even stranger it is being investigated in connection to two other missing men in the region)



    I have added Eric and Sylvester to the Min. thread as well
     
  12. robkat86

    robkat86 New Member

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    They were found on land in an alley. If I remember correctly not on the route he would have taken between the apartment and HyVee.
     

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