Post Verdict - Ross Harris Trial

Discussion in 'Cooper Harris' started by tlcya, Nov 17, 2016.

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  1. Rayemonde

    Rayemonde Well-Known Member

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    Some people bounce back quickly from things and get on with their life. Even after the death of a child. Even if that death was their fault (unintentionally). Others commit suicide, or spend the next twenty years carrying the child's blanket everywhere they go and weeping into it, and talking about nothing but the dead child. It doesn't help anyone, and it doesn't bring the child back, so why do we see it as the most praiseworthy way of grieving?

    Some people are stoical and move on quickly, others don't. I don't think that moving on quickly should be be frowned upon. LH didn't let the death of her baby ruin her life. She moved on, got a new boyfriend. She's a strong woman. Good for her.
     


  2. EquallyDivided

    EquallyDivided New Member

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    I completely agree with all of your sentiments!

    I wasn't able to do it, and by the time I was able, it was too late. Parents who can stay home make a lot of sacrifices - and so do those who don't have that choice.

    My views are not popular. One very negative side effect of womens lib was flooding the workforce with able bodies, and less corporate competition to provide higher wages, thereby making it necessary for two people to work in order bring home close to the same paycheck. I'm not negating the positive aspects, just focusing on this one issue.

    At the end of the day, you know your kids are going to complain about SOMETHING. I'm just glad that it's "first world problems" but my approach is the same as yours...what do I want them to complain about? The fact that I worked too much overtime and they never saw me, or that they didn't get that PS4... Because believe me, there will be complaints. At least complaining about the PS4, I can make fun of them for it.

    I stopped saying to my kids "we can't afford it" when as a single mom to a 3 and 7 year old, my 7 year old was working all day to pull his first tooth. I asked him why he's trying so hard, it will come out when it's good and ready. He said he needed money from the tooth fairy. I asked him why he wanted money so badly (thinking I would get a good gift idea out of it). He said "So I can give it to you, to pay bills". It broke my heart, he was willing to rip out his tooth to alleviate my money struggles. From then on, I would say "it's not worth the money" or "let's start saving for that!"

    Right now, my 23 year olds biggest complaint is I would never let him have a dirtbike. I'm OK with that! I couldn't trust that kid with a can opener!
     
  3. ScotAng

    ScotAng Well-Known Member

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    Third attempt after numbing my hands sitting on them so long.

    Curious as to where your info comes from. Especially on those who killed their children unintentionally (apart from the post you quoted). Are there statistics as I'd like to share with them with my group? You're having a dig at people who grieve that way, so obviously not perceived that way by everyone, is it? :)

    I don't know what to say about Leanna not letting Cooper's death ruin her life, your words. (I do, but won't.) Naivety at best. I hope... Yes, she's a very strong woman. Where once thought downtrodden and cowed by RH. Nowt as queer as folk is there.
     
  4. wassermann

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    Sorry, i didn't know how to multi quote so i quote this. There is no admirable way to grieve i agree with that. But as for Leanna being strong and not letting any of this ruin her life, being strong etc. She released a statement she is not ok. She testified under oath that she may never trust again. So where is her strength obvious? and no sarcasm or snakiness.. just curious.
     
  5. peedoffinny

    peedoffinny Active Member

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    I can't get over LH reaction in the holding cell with ross. I also don't understand her comments she made at the funeral. She just sounds so indifferent towards Cooper - something is wrong with her. IMO.
     
  6. ScotAng

    ScotAng Well-Known Member

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    Wasserman, it was sarcasm. I see now I deleted the sentence that would have reflected that.

    Yes she did put a statement on FB that she wasn't ok, nor was she ok with being put on the path that led to Ross being convicted. She was absolutely not ok with RH being blamed, that was our (society's) fault. She has huge anger for Harris being found guilty. All about Ross.

    Initially I thought her a weak individual, given what we knew of Harris's treatment of her.

    She surprised me on the stand a few times. I found her outburst of how RH humiliated her and that she may never trust again interesting. More so, she'd already stated she moved back to Alabama to be with her new b/f. That takes a certain amount of strength. I go between thinking her weak, to a very capable woman. To be clear, I am not a Leanna 'fan'.
     
  7. wassermann

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    Yes i saw your sarcasm...lol, I meant to quote the person you replied to. Oh well... btw I have enjoyed your insight a lot, and I tend to agree a lot!
     
  8. NCTeacher

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    Leanna said her life is RUINED. She said that Ross has ruined her life. She didn't state in what way, but given the context, it would be reasonable to conclude that his vicarious sexual exploits have, in her words, humiliated her to the point of ruining her life.
     
  9. NCTeacher

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    Anyone else going to the sentencing? I was thrilled a Monday was selected, so my mom, my children, and I are making an Atlanta-weekend trip! Obviously, from my name, I am driving in from NC.
     
  10. EquallyDivided

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    Good luck, although I'm local I don't do crowds very well. Something tells me that courtroom is going to be PACKED!

    I'm in court enough for work, viewing online is a much more relaxing experience ;)

    If you want ideas for the weekend, shoot me a message!
     
  11. franquerolane

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    I'm sorry, but any parent who lost a toddler through a tortuous death,
    who can just go on with their life is not "strong". There is something wrong with them.
     
  12. monkeypants

    monkeypants Do or do not there is no try.

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    She just started a whole new life...so her entire life wasn't ruined, just that chapter. Imo she bounced back amazingly fast considering the circumstances! New man, new town, new job...won't be long until new kid. Complete do over in 2 years...
     
  13. monkeypants

    monkeypants Do or do not there is no try.

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    I've had my heart broken and gone longer than that without a real relationship and I didn't have my son murdered by my husband, humiliated in front of the world by his antics, have to get a divorce ...just saying...no moss grew on that tree.
     
  14. Hope4More

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    Opinions aside, it's ahistorical and factually inaccurate that "women's lib" was in any way responsible for many families needing two working parents to survive financially. Didn't work that way.
     
  15. Seriously?

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    She had a few opportunities to ditch the humiliation before Cooper's death. She caught him. Porn addiction, he said! Marched him to the church to disclose. She knew the accountability guy was in place, but according to her testimony, she did not know that guy called it quits. She wasn't interested enough to find out, be supportive of his abstinence (which was the goal, right? but didn't exactly work). When did the humiliation quotient max out? After he killed Cooper?

    I think we all have responsibilities for our lives......choices are made and consequences just fall into place.
     
  16. Niner

    Niner Long time Websleuther

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    re multi-quotes - on the right side of the page, right next to the "Reply With Quote" there is a "+ Just hit that and then the last person you want to quote hit "Reply with Quote". Hope that helps! :wave:

    Well - you know that we will expect a FULL report on what's going on in the courtroom, right?! :seeya:

    edited to add - it is on Monday, Dec. 5th correct? :thinking:
     
  17. monkeypants

    monkeypants Do or do not there is no try.

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    Standing room only on coopers side and completely empty on RH
     
  18. MsMtOlympus

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    Just finished latest episode of AJC's Breakdown podcast. Host Bill Rankin interviewed DT post-verdict. At one point, Kilgore asks Rankin to turn off his recorder because Carlos Rodriguez was sobbing and needed a moment to compose himself. Kilgore's statements in this particular interview also contained a level of conviction that IMO went beyond the standard practice of defending a client to the media. Whole DT seems to be genuinely convinced that Harris did not kill Cooper intentionally. Why? Do they have information that we don't? (I'm being serious here, no snark intended.)

    iTunes link for those interested:

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/breakdown/id992983540?mt=2
     
  19. Runlove

    Runlove Verified Insider

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    I was taken aback by this as well. They know he is a gross predator who has solicited and had sex with minors. They know that beyond a shadow of a doubt. They must realize that even if it was an accident by some standard, his nasty behavior and habits were a contributing distraction. I believe he did plan it, but I completely understand believing it was FBS and being determined to prove the legal case of it in court. But I can't imagine being torn up over Ross' personal misfortune. Dude is not worth anyone's tears. I just don't get it.
     
  20. MsMtOlympus

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    Exactly!!

    I get that Kilgore, Rodriguez, and Lumpkin may actually honestly believe that the death was unintentional and that a malice murder conviction was a miscarriage of justice (due to "breakdowns in the system") but the sobbing and vouching for Harris's upstanding character (there's an example of this in the podcast) really baffle me. RH gave a minor directions on administering oral sex - vouching for character is no longer a option, I'd say.

    (I believe it was never proven/established that Harris had any physical contact with minors?)
     
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