Questions for & Info from Gabe's Family **NO DISCUSSION**

Discussion in 'Gabriel Johnson' started by BeanE, Jan 28, 2010.

  1. AZlawyer

    AZlawyer Verified Attorney

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    Is there an error in MissingGabe's timeline? How can Logan have never heard of the Smiths until Dec 17 if he initiated the court proceedings on Dec 11 with the purpose of getting Gabe back from the Smiths?
     


  2. BeanE

    BeanE Inactive

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    I have that noted as an item for clarification, AZ. I didn't notice it until I was sorting all the info by date. I'll get back with you.
     
  3. YellowSubmarine

    YellowSubmarine If we couldn't laugh, we would all go insane!

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    The only thing about the Gospel Rescue Mission -- I don't think they would send her to SA. I could be wrong. Maybe they gave her tips/suggestions/referrals, though? I lean more toward the FVPS in SA. FVPS.org

    I wonder if she stayed at that motel, though. Seems there may have been a day or two unaccounted for before she got to SA.
     
  4. W8nC

    W8nC New Member

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    BBM: That right there just breaks my heart. We, or LE, or someone, has GOT to find this baby and reunite him with his Daddy. These two guys need each other really badly and we have to do everything in our power to help them out!
     
  5. BeanE

    BeanE Inactive

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    Please note that our mod, Hoppyfrog, made this a No Discussion thread. Questions for the family, and requests for clarification are fine, but discussion needs to go to one of the other threads. You can link back to posts in here for your reference links as necessary.

    Thanks!
     
  6. BeanE

    BeanE Inactive

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    Confirmed by MissingGabe:

    December 27

    On Dec 27, several family members were going to go to lunch together. Some family members were getting ready to go home after visiting for Christmas. MissingGabe was there.

    Logan came running up, told them about Eliz's texts and phone call, and played the recording of the call for the family.

    Logan went to LE with the text and phone recording, and LE immediately began their search for Eliz and Gabe.

    LE started pinging Eliz's phone. The pings showed Eliz was in San Antonio. The phone subsequently pinged in Victoria, and LE thought Eliz was headed towards Mexico. LE took action along the borders in an attempt to impede her progress. At one point during the ping tracking, there was indication that the phone was headed toward Corpus, but it did not actually ping in Corpus.
     
  7. danisisa

    danisisa New Member

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    DId it ping on South Padre Island area???JS had family there. There is a huge lighthouse there that reminds me of a drawing.
     
  8. BeanE

    BeanE Inactive

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    The pings in my post are the only pings - San Antonio and Victoria.
     
  9. BeanE

    BeanE Inactive

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    Info received to clarify from MissingGabe, and those two posts are now updated.
     
  10. BeanE

    BeanE Inactive

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    Confirmed by MissingGabe:

    Some miscellaneous information:

    - The Smiths went to Eliz's trailer to pick up Gabe on or about Dec 22.

    - Elizabeth has never been in San Antonio before, nor talked about San Antonio with any member of Logan's side of the family.

    - Nobody on Logan's side of the family ever heard Eliz say Logan might not be Gabe's father, nor have any of them every heard any stories to that effect.

    - Logan has always been on Gabe's birth certificate since Gabe's birth.

    - The family has known Eliz since junior high school.

    - Eliz never wanted to have babies, but Logan was 'born to be a daddy', and finally Eliz agreed to have a baby, and they had Gabe.

    - Eliz always threatened Logan that she was going to take Gabe and he would never see her or Gabe again.

    - It was when Logan finally told Eliz that he was ending their relationship because he no longer felt Gabe was safe, that Eliz 'snapped'.

    - MissingGabe expressed that Eliz had Logan 'under her spell', that Logan would 'do anything for her', and that Eliz 'used that' many times.


    (Sorry if this is a bit incongruent. I'm going through many emails and notes, and trying to put it in some kind of order, but I'm getting tired :) )
     
  11. time

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    "- The Smiths went to Eliz's trailer to pick up Gabe on or about Dec 22."

    Is this correct?
     
  12. BeanE

    BeanE Inactive

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    Yes. The Smiths went to pick up Gabe because they were supposed to get him back when Logan's custody was over, which would have been the morning of Wed Dec 23. However, although unsure of the exact date, MissingGabe thinks it was Dec 22. Ergo, my 'on or about'.

    ETA: MissingGabe wrote to me about this twice, and both she and Logan went back and reviewed the information to identify which information could not be publicly released.
     
  13. danisisa

    danisisa New Member

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    Did EJ always dress provacatively??? In the pictures provided, she didn't. I wonder why she was dressed the way she was when the babysitter watched G. WAs she in trying to impress someone?
     
  14. BeanE

    BeanE Inactive

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    Confirmed by MissingGabe:

    At the custody hearing on December 17, the judge told Eliz she would have to pay for the paternity test for C Cherry. Eliz said no. The judge then asked if that meant that Eliz was sure that Logan was the father. Eliz said yes.

    Thus, paternity quickly became a non-issue.
     
  15. Amster

    Amster Well-Known Member

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    Is the reason LE left Gabe with the Smiths because Logan and Elizabeth weren't married? Is that why they made Logan bring Gabe back after Eliz. kicked him out and told him to take Gabe?
     
  16. not_my_kids

    not_my_kids New Member

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    What do they know about EJ's attitude? Is she the type that typically would try to please people in between blowups or was she the type that seemed to say, "To he77 with what you think?"
     
  17. BeanE

    BeanE Inactive

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    All the family knows about that is what I've posted.

    Thanks, Amster.
     
  18. JBean

    JBean Retired WS Administrator

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    This is a NO Discussion Thread. thank you
     
  19. danisisa

    danisisa New Member

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    Think back and way back...Did EJ ever talk about anyone that she knew in the Texas area..OR someone she talked about frequently that she trusted. When you 1st were around...Were their any names that she mentioned, foster homes in the Texas area?
     
  20. BeanE

    BeanE Inactive

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    From LP34:

    Elizabeth's only family is her grandmother in Boston, and her grandfather and brother in Scottsdale.
     

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