I've read the books, and found them lacking as far as what set this into motion. I tend to lean away from that. It seems like an odd shaped puzzle piece being forced into the frame to finish the picture. Thank you, UKGuy! I've always respected your well thought out posts. Userid: Thank you! I knew about all of the bedwetting, and ran that around in my head with the rest of the evidence; clothing, Patsy being tired, and on her last nerve. When I look at the entire scene; particularly the fecal matter, I get more pent up rage than I do "standing on his/her last nerve, and she/he lost it" emotion. This was overkill. I feel pre-meditation all over this scene. I found this to be calculated. Thanks again!