Random Thoughts and Discussion Ideas#5 About the Case

[Thinaire]

Lee's house is a few streets away from the A's so not far at all from the body area.

Hi Amy, thanks for answering...if I knew how to bring the map over I would post it...but I am computer challenged most of the time.

The streets from lee's are not direct it looks like...but the distance looks almost even from a birds eye view...the A's home is closer by access.

 

[NancyT]

You're correct. Statements and admissions made during the course of plea negotiations are inadmissible in any civil or criminal proceeding-- even if the plea is withdrawn or no agreement is reached.

Thanks, I kinda figured as much. Well, this little bit of info may have to wait on the release of a book on down the road (assuming it can even be written about).

 

[nancy botwin]

Thank You. I feel a little crazy, but I just feel so sure of this for some damn reason, I cant get it out of my mind, she was stealing, yes, but it is VERY expensive to go clubbing and have a different outfit every night (GOD FORBID you would be caught wearing the same thing twice) I dont think some people realize just how much money all that partying costs.
I am also VERY curious as to why no one has come forward saying they are the father, or the fathers family, or that some reporter hasnt put a timeline together and found and reported on possibles. A sick thought, but people are looking into every aspect of this case, this one is left alone, and I can understand why, I am just shocked no one has found him yet.....

I agree that Casey had to have been doing SOME form of work to make money-- even if she rarely worked, etc. I tend to believe this work was sporadic and illicit. Even if she didn't have to pay for her drinks and rarely shopped, it takes some money to do basic things every day. She needed gas to drive around all the time. She seemed to eat out quite frequently. She seemed to use make-up and color her hair, etc. I don't think she could have gotten by on ZERO income-- even if George spotted her 20$ every so often and she was skimming the occasional 5$ from Caylee's piggy bank. I think she was making some money of her own. And I'm very curious to know how she was making it.

 

[kellync]

I'm not sure she was hooking, but I'm also not saying she wasn't. Does anyone remember the dates of the searches for the escort services? Or around what time frame? I know LP thinks Lee conducted those searches, but is it possible that Casey planned on fleeing after killing Caylee and was looking into this business to turn some fast cash in a new city?

good question, or maybe she wasnt making enough with one agency, and wanted to move up to a more glamorous or seemingly more upscale agency, OR out of the city.

 

[NancyT]

I don't believe this for a few reasons..Bozo was in court less then a hour before she was found asking for a continuance & possible change of venue in the near future..Why bother IF there was a plea deal in the works?..I also don't believe for one second KA was about to spill her guts..Not ever!..Even now she's still sticking to the "kidnapping" story.

You may be right, but GR is pretty good buds with Jose' now and that's the show it was reported on (again, not saying it's factual).

 

[Egoslayer]

Thank You. I feel a little crazy, but I just feel so sure of this for some damn reason, I cant get it out of my mind, she was stealing, yes, but it is VERY expensive to go clubbing and have a different outfit every night (GOD FORBID you would be caught wearing the same thing twice) I dont think some people realize just how much money all that partying costs.
I am also VERY curious as to why no one has come forward saying they are the father, or the fathers family, or that some reporter hasnt put a timeline together and found and reported on possibles. A sick thought, but people are looking into every aspect of this case, this one is left alone, and I can understand why, I am just shocked no one has found him yet.....

Look, I'm pretty young, I party, but nothing like that. You don't get photographed in a flag .. we all know it's hard to get a job with pictures like that all over myspace (employers check that) SO, She always seemed to be a bit "in the biz" or illegal, cuz you can't get a job with pics like that on your myspace. If it was just a simple word-of-mouth thing, I don't think it's related to Caylees death. But if she was in some more complicated escort service, and she didn't do waht she was told (spiteful ), they might've taken/killed Caylee. Then she went out to party to grieve (common among young mothers). Then she dumped the body where someone would find it, but it got flooded.

But that is rather elaborate. It's much more likely, she's a word-of-mouth hooker, and she killed caylee herself.. waiting for the evidence.

 

[kellync]

Well, sleuthers, I cant keep my eyes open...But I will leave you with this. One of my fondest memories of my Grandparents was, when they were alive, to sit around and watch court tv. We watched O.J. and every other case that came on EVERY afternoon. When I would ask my 85 yr old Grandfather what he thought of each defendant, when he thought they were guilty, he would say " burn, baby, burn"...I feel like he is saying that to me on this one folks. I think thats what will happen to KC. RIP Moe, I love you..

 

[NancyT]

good question, or maybe she wasnt making enough with one agency, and wanted to move up to a more glamorous or seemingly more upscale agency, OR out of the city.

I believe one of those cities was Philly. Since I'm in PA, that one stuck with me. LP said the searches were for areas that Lee visited for work related purposes, but I don't believe anyone else ever verified that to be true.

LP suggested that (and I'm using my terminology) only a fool would use their own computer when they could go down the street and get away with it.

 

[amysmom]

FWIW, I'll bet Lee is shaking in his shoes wondering if sis is gonna throw him under the bus.

What do you think for?..I think she may have confided in him about the death (probably not a TRUE version) & the disposal of the body..It sure sounds like she's giving him clues to where to look for it..BUT!..Not long after this jail visit she gets released so if that really was it she would've told him in person where to find her..Then beg (?) him to move the body for her since she couldn't herself.

If this is an accurate scenario why didn't it get done?

He didn't have the stomach for it when the time came plus fear of getting caught.

But he promised to always keep her secret.

That means she can still throw him under the bus for obstruction & accessory (?).

 

[ThoughtElf]

i don't know where else to put this and i don't want to start another thread but i was reading another site and had totally forgot about this "big development" in the case that the A's said was coming.

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/18188923/detail.html

"ORLANDO, Fla. -- Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, said a big development in the case is on the way.

George Anthony wouldn't elaborate much further, but said a team of private investigators are working on a new lead that could lead to the discovery of the girl."

the unconfirmed remains of caylee were found 9 days later...suspicious or coinkydink?

i am undecided. (if this has already been discussed then plz ignore)

I'm guessing the big development was either the CA or the TN tip?

 

[tippytoes]

Hey--this was on another thread, but I thought I'd ask you guys on the Random Thread:

QuietStorm

06-24-2008
*The times shown may change, depending on DST settings
12:40 am - cell tower pings near AL's apt until . . .
8:04 am - cell tower pings continue near AL's apt until . . .
2:42 pm - cell tower pings near the Anthony home until . . .
2:59 pm - cell tower pings near Chickasaw Trail until . . .
3:12 pm - cell tower pings near AL's apt until past midnight into the next day

*All distance calculated by Lat/Long.
*Address converted from Lat/Long at Steve Morse's
website http://www.stevemorse.org/jcal/latlon.php
*All pings detailed on AT&T cellsite report for KC's cell phone; posted on WS by Musikman

The theory is that she dumped the body on the 24th. Wasn't this the day of the gas cans and the run in with George? I hadn't seen this so clearly posted and I am kind of blown away by the pings....

Thanks!

 

[amysmom]

You may be right, but GR is pretty good buds with Jose' now and that's the show it was reported on (again, not saying it's factual).

I didn't know it came from GR..(tonight?)..but it still seems out there to me for the reasons I gave already & with the 'scheme team' in Orlando just waiting around to get into the crime scene..Unless they took it off the table once the body was found?..That does make some sense to me!

 

[amysmom]

Hey--this was on another thread, but I thought I'd ask you guys on the Random Thread:

QuietStorm

06-24-2008
*The times shown may change, depending on DST settings
12:40 am - cell tower pings near AL's apt until . . .
8:04 am - cell tower pings continue near AL's apt until . . .
2:42 pm - cell tower pings near the Anthony home until . . .
2:59 pm - cell tower pings near Chickasaw Trail until . . .
3:12 pm - cell tower pings near AL's apt until past midnight into the next day

*All distance calculated by Lat/Long.
*Address converted from Lat/Long at Steve Morse's
website http://www.stevemorse.org/jcal/latlon.php
*All pings detailed on AT&T cellsite report for KC's cell phone; posted on WS by Musikman

The theory is that she dumped the body on the 24th. Wasn't this the day of the gas cans and the run in with George? I hadn't seen this so clearly posted and I am kind of blown away by the pings....

Thanks!

I've seen others say she panicked after GA tried to get in her trunk so she left the house & dumped the bag ASAP..It was supposedly the 24th..Now these pings help to confirm it for me..Thanks!

 

[ThoughtElf]

Hey--this was on another thread, but I thought I'd ask you guys on the Random Thread:

QuietStorm

06-24-2008
*The times shown may change, depending on DST settings
12:40 am - cell tower pings near AL's apt until . . .
8:04 am - cell tower pings continue near AL's apt until . . .
2:42 pm - cell tower pings near the Anthony home until . . .
2:59 pm - cell tower pings near Chickasaw Trail until . . .
3:12 pm - cell tower pings near AL's apt until past midnight into the next day

*All distance calculated by Lat/Long.
*Address converted from Lat/Long at Steve Morse's
website http://www.stevemorse.org/jcal/latlon.php
*All pings detailed on AT&T cellsite report for KC's cell phone; posted on WS by Musikman

The theory is that she dumped the body on the 24th. Wasn't this the day of the gas cans and the run in with George? I hadn't seen this so clearly posted and I am kind of blown away by the pings....

Thanks!

Try this time line theory on for size: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3058447&postcount=55

Momtective has worked in the pings, sightings, KC's activities, plus the 2.6 days of decomp development. It's pretty impressive.

 

[tippytoes]

Try this time line theory on for size: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3058447&postcount=55

Momtective has worked in the pings, sightings, KC's activities, plus the 2.6 days of decomp development. It's pretty impressive.

My brain hurts--is the timeline theory that Caylee was dumped on the 18th?

edited--sorry--the server was down. I like JWB's theory, which fits these pings.

 

[badhorsie]

Last night I read Caseys interview in the conference room after she lied at Universal Studio, she mentions Chickasaw Trail and comments on its remoteness in that interview.
Just had to mention that!

 

[crazyclan99]

Hey--this was on another thread, but I thought I'd ask you guys on the Random Thread:

QuietStorm

06-24-2008
*The times shown may change, depending on DST settings
12:40 am - cell tower pings near AL's apt until . . .
8:04 am - cell tower pings continue near AL's apt until . . .
2:42 pm - cell tower pings near the Anthony home until . . .
2:59 pm - cell tower pings near Chickasaw Trail until . . .
3:12 pm - cell tower pings near AL's apt until past midnight into the next day

*All distance calculated by Lat/Long.
*Address converted from Lat/Long at Steve Morse's
website http://www.stevemorse.org/jcal/latlon.php
*All pings detailed on AT&T cellsite report for KC's cell phone; posted on WS by Musikman

The theory is that she dumped the body on the 24th. Wasn't this the day of the gas cans and the run in with George? I hadn't seen this so clearly posted and I am kind of blown away by the pings....

Thanks!

Im sorry if this question has already been asked but I can't remember right now....When was the phone call to JC Penney?

 

[lisalei321]

I'm listening to fox35 live http://media.myfoxorlando.com/live/livemornings.html and they keep saying that the childs skull was wrapped in duct tape, has anybody seen where this has been confirmed? I thought it was still a rumour?

 

[nomoresorrow]

Im sorry if this question has already been asked but I can't remember right now....When was the phone call to JC Penney?

I recall her having called on June 27th, prior to leaving the car at Amscot.

 

[shelbar53]

Bolding mine. I had completely forgotten this! What do you think this means?

I thinl LP saying, dont be surprised if LE has the body or something to that effect just means one of 2 things.

#1. he loved to say things to rattle the anthonys, just to see how they would respond. sometimgs I think he threw red herrings out there to see what their next move was.

#2. he really thought he was in tight with LE or the FBI and he was "reading between the lines" as to different comments they made to him but he was way off base and he really wasnt in tight with them.

Either way, LP also kept the case in the forefront. I would buy a book of his but never any the anthonys write, if either writes one. It makes me sick to think the A's might get rich off of this.