Discussion in 'Celebrity and Entertainment News' started by Steely Dan, Nov 14, 2014.
Did she weigh in the the Bill Clinton cases?
Bill Cosby's ties to D.C. establishments under scrutiny
Cosby a loyal customer of Ben's Chili Bowl for more than 50 years
-No idea TrackerSam, but GS has personal knowledge of the Playboy Bunny Empire...
She supported Clinton.
B&U by me. Statute of limitations?
^^ Thanks for posting this article. I think the difference is consensual affairs vs. drugging & rape.
ETA: another big difference is one apologized and the other has not... imo.
I haven't been keeping up, has anyone seen this story? Says that the Navy considers the allegations serious??
edited to say.... I had no idea he had been in the Navy...they took away his promotion! Wow!
some of the allegations were already public when they gave him his honorary promotion.
So.... 13 women that accuse you of rape are still negligible, it could happen to anybody, but once you get in the twenties it starts to be a bit embarrassing habit?
All of the other BCs were not consensual and I missed the apologies to all the women. Do you have a link?
From your linked article:
WASHINGTON (AP) The Navy is revoking Bill Cosby's title of honorary chief petty officer, saying allegations of sexual abuse made against the comedian are serious and conflict with the Navy's core values.
Thank you for posting this.
It does appear the Navy considers this serious. I heard something on the news earlier this satellite radio this morning (not sure which channel) and the host said (paraphrasing) "First the Navy, now Bill Cosby...." before going into a segment on Gloria Allred. I inferred it to Tailhook.
And, in its wake, this is the kind of negative publicity the USN would want to distance itself from, from one of its officers, IMVHO.
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Re: bandwagon I'm a more modern person than 1855, origin of jumping on the bandwagon.
Maybe it's time for the other side of the story:
Cosby notes the woman -- who is now 56 years old -- tried to sell the story to the tabloids around 10 years ago but no one bit. So the comedian says it's total BS that she would now say she had a repressed memory, which would allow her to file a civil lawsuit.
The docs say Huth's lawyer demanded $100K for silence, and later increased the demand to $250K as more women came forward.
Good points SStarr: There is the same dynamic about powerful men and the women who dare to hold them accountable.
As disillusioned as I remember being over this at the time Clinton did take responsibility..
Deleted; Not worth arguing over a non issue with you as it relates to this thread.
Drugging someone with "roofies" against their consent is traumatic. This is how one might feel (just to put it in perspective on how these women may feel/felt). You wake up early in the morning with little or no recollection of what happened the previous night. You went out for a drink with an aquaintance that you don't know so well, you remember that you had one drink and that you wanted to get home but everything else is a blur. You wake up with your clothes disheveled/and or off to a man that you barely know who is acting extremely weird. You feel terrified because you don't know this person that well, you are in an unfamiliar place with basically a stranger. You don't remember anything, but you want to get out of there as quickly as possible because this guy could be dangerous. You also have major brain fog and still feel out of sorts. You leave asap and get home.
Thoughts go through you mind, what happened? why can't I remember, did I drink too much? Who is that guy? Did he steal anything from me? omg he could have killed me...did he rape me? did he film/take pics? did someone else violate me? Why am I sore? Why was I so careless? Why can't I remember? So after a few days you are dumbfounded, and likely talk to your closest friend/friends/family. And they tell you to call this person to find out what happened? (b/c it doesn't yet register that someone roofied you). You call and the guy is weird and says nothing basically. You discuss with your closest friend again and think maybe the guy drugged you and you are lucky to be alive (because that is twisted and dangerous for someone to do to another person, because victim could die and has no ability to fight or call for help). Of course you never want to talk the guy again and you don't go to police because you don't know what happened to you or people won't believe you (and if the guy isn't charged he could come after you). And it still weighs on you 10 years, 20 years, 30 years later because it's one of the scariest things to happen to a girl/guy being roofied without consent or knowledge and violated/raped in ways you don't know. You try to forget about but see on the news that the guy who violated you is accused of violating someone else. And now what do you do? You speak up because it confirms what you have been trying to suppress for years. And this criminal did it to someone else and you don't want it to happen to other women. That's why women/men who have been roofied/raped talk when there is safety in numbers because empathy, common experience, healing and you don't want others to suffer the fear and pain that you did. And no, this hypo is not a scenario where one drinks too much and has a 1-night stand. JMO and thoughts
Here is one man's horror story of being drugged and raped.
My own rape shows how much we get wrong about these attacks
By Richard Morgan July 1
I think that victims feel safe telling their story when they know they are others with the same story. They are "safe" from being disbelieved. There's a difference between being a lone voice, making accusations against a pillar of the entertainment industry - talk about requiring courage! - and telling your story along with other women who have suffered the same un believable nightmarish experience at the hand of the same man. I'm sure this is why some folks join support groups - there are people there who have suffered similarly, who can be empathetic, who won't judge or disbelieve. This too would be considered a "safe" environment.
For the life of me I cannot figure out what Bill Clinton has to do with this thread topic.
Jerry Seinfeld, Chris Rock Share Reactions to Bill Cosby News
"I was very upset, very upset. Still upset. I don't know what to make of it, but it's just upsetting," said Seinfeld, 60.
*Not sure if this article has been posted already.
Cosby strikes back at accuser: She tried to extort him
5:47 p.m. EST December 4, 2014
Bill Cosby's lawyers have struck back at one of his accusers in court, declaring that she tried to extort him for a quarter-million dollars and that she attempted to sell her story to a tabloid a decade ago.
If so, it would undermine the lawsuit Judy Huth filed against Cosby on Tuesday in California, claiming he molested her at the Playboy Mansion 40 years ago when she was 15.
In a court filing Thursday by Cosby's attorney, Martin Singer, is seeking dismissal of Huth's lawsuit and monetary damages, according to The Associated Press.
Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2014/12/04/cosby-strikes-back-at-accuser-she-tried-to-extort-him/19907997/