Rape allegations mount against Bill Cosby #2

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  1. Montjoy

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  2. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    Hm ok?? You often don't believe people you consider truthtellers?
     
  3. Montjoy

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    Victim testimony *is* evidence. It's called direct evidence. I definitely recall you bemoaning that a case had "only" circumstantial evidence in the past. Well, as it stands, every one of these allegations is supported by *direct* evidence.
     
  4. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    Yes but that is not what this is. It is evidence under oath. When it is in the media it is a claim. It is not the same thing.
     
  5. Charlie09

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    Why are we making up things?And why is it ok to go somewhere imaginary with your scenario, but not the what if of the ability for someone else to ruin a life just because they could get 50 people to make something up -

    It's not Bill Cosby that I personally am defending - it's this call for justice when no one seems to be seeking the legal system, just seemingly publicity and or payoffs.
     
  6. Charlie09

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    *courtesy laugh*

    ;)
     
  7. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    I believe that people can remember things wrong or be influenced or have ulterior motives.
    There are a lot of possibilities.
    But when someone goes and tells their story to the media and not to court, That is an issue for me.
     
  8. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    Well is there anything to show that it's not imaginary and completely made up to suppose that someone got 50 people to agree to ruin Bill Cosby's life by making up lies about him?
     
  9. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    Do you believe Andrea Constand, Lachele Covington, Chloe Goins and Judy Huth then? they were willing to go to court with it.
     
  10. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    IF they go to court, If there are charges I will weigh the evidence.
     
  11. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    Andrea Constand went to court and Bill Cosby apparently settled so that his lawyers were forced to state that the statements that the allegations were discredited didn't refer to the allegations made by Andrea Constand.

    That to me is a roundabout legal way of saying the allegations made by Andrea Constand could very possibly be totally true.

    How does that weigh with you?
     
  12. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    She did not go to criminal court. Civil judgments or settlements are not relevant to me. People settle for all kinds of reasons. Usually because it is cheaper and again the goal in that case was money not justice.

    I don't believe that because she tried to get money in a civil suit means he is guilty.
     
  13. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    Are you aware that it's not up to the alleged victim to decide if the case will be criminally prosecuted or not? Andrea Constand was willing to testify in a criminal court but the prosecutor thought there was not enough evidence. No one can just "go to criminal court" at will.
     
  14. ScarlettScarpetta

    ScarlettScarpetta When the going gets tough, drink coffee

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    Yes. Because prosecutors have to file charges according to the law. They can not just file charges for cases where there is not enough evidence. So if the case was not brought criminally there is a reason. There was not enough evidence. So there should have been no case.
     
  15. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    Yeah and that's how it happened. There was no criminal case.

    But not enough evidence does not mean that there was no crime. It means that there was not enough evidence.
     
  16. ScarlettScarpetta

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    Prosecutors can get indictments if they need them, But the fact that this prosecutor did not charge him says a lot to me.
     
  17. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    Yeah it says there was not enough evidence to indict and get a conviction.

    He said he believed her.
     
  18. ScarlettScarpetta

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    That does not make it true.
     
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    Good grief, nor does it make it false.
     
  20. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    No.

    But then again, if you don't believe her it doesn't make it false either.
     
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