Rape allegations mount against Bill Cosby #2

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  1. BirdycatNY

    BirdycatNY New Member

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    Prosecuting sexual assault cases are difficult enough as it is and statistically very small percentage are even brought to trial. It is the Sandusky's and serial sexual assault perpetrators that changing SOL rules would be able to assist in those types of cases. Serial rapists are really dangerous individuals. I agree that it's better to let a guilty man go free, then to incarcerate an innocent person. However, there are heinous crimes that should not have SOL limitations and should go through court system and trial. Justice can't potentially be served in some cases if there is a time barrier. And imo serial rape is one of those crimes. But Jmo/
     
  2. Richmond

    Richmond Well-Known Member

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    Wow to your misquote.
    What you quoted is not what was actually written by Birdycat. This is the actual quote:

    "Let's hope if he actually committed the crimes that he's accused of, and LE investigation turns out fruitful, that this goes to criminal court."

    BBM, and I added a comma after fruitful so that it would be clearer to you.
     
  3. IzzyBlanche

    IzzyBlanche Well-Known Member

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    I expect that if it came to court, ALL we would see is personal stories. Those of the victims, perhaps those of others corroborating their stories, although I think that would be considered hearsay and inadmissable but IANAL. That's why rape is so often a he said/she said crime.

    Therefore by your own logic BC can never, ever be convicted.
     
  4. BirdycatNY

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    There are exceptions to hearsay rule and it would depend on what corroborating witnesses were testifying to, obviously couldn't testify to 'truth of the matter asserted' statements that BC raped women if witness didn't personally witness rape, but you could potentially use something like present state of mind or then-existing condition to get testimony in for other reasons, (hypothetically, like the guy that immediately picked woman up who was allegedly drugged by BC might testify to statements re: her condition when he picked her up and that she was in fact at BC's home, but not for the purpose of asserting BC drugged her), but jmo. See http://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/fre/rule_803
     
  5. Nova

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    Do you have statistics to back that up? I don't believe it is true (not that you are lying, just misinformed) when it comes to rape cases.

    BC did not meet most of these women in back alleys. If evidence that he was there is all you want, it should be easy to collect. Since so many of the alleged assault happened AT HIS HOUSE, I think it stands to reason BC was present during the time of the alleged attacks.
     
  6. wendiesan

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    I think it's much to late to gather some kinds of physical evidence from his house--ten or twenty years of laundry, time to throw away anything incriminating, repaint walls and polish bannisters, so fingerprints, hair on cushions, body fluids on sheets, etc. would have disappeared by now. None of that, though, would prove consent or lack of consent though it would prove the presence of someone. I guess that would be helpful if BC was claiming that person was never there and the evidence suggested she was there contradicting his story. However, I think it would be much harder now to find physical evidence that could prove that an alleged victim had been drugged by BC rather than bringing the drugs herself, or that the alleged victim drank too much of her own volition and had never been given drugs.

    There might be witnesses to someone's arrival at/departure from the house--like a cook, chauffeur, housekeeper, security staff member (in fact, I would have thought that someone of his standing should have had around the clock bodyguards), someone in his entourage. There might be neighbours who would have heard or seen something unusual. There might be a journal kept by security as a reference so shift changes would be informed of how many people were in the house at any particular time, it's possible that those kinds of records might be kept by the chief of security when dealing with a celebrity. There might have been CCTV security, but it's not too likely, IMO, that such records would have been archived since they tend to be taped over.

    There might be people who would testify that the alleged victims told them about the incidents. Certainly, police reports would have been archived. There is the testimony of Frank Scotti who still has the receipts from his role in keeping BC's presumed sexual partners quiet. He can back up that he gave people money on behalf of BC, but I don't think he can say all of them were mistresses.

    http://www.crushable.com/2014/11/24...-paid-off-women-for-sex-favors/#ixzz3R7fsjKMU

    IMO, it's possible that, if BC was guilty of the alleged crimes, he might have taken "trophies" or "souvenirs" that LE could tie to the alleged victims, or photographs of his unconscious alleged victims, or he could have made audio tapes of his attacks, and then kept these things in some kind of cache that he could revisit. I don't know how likely it would be that he would still have these around, although, if he does, I would bet that someone very familiar with his activities, like a bodyguard, might have a very good idea of where such a stash could be hidden.

    Are these the kinds of things you were thinking of, Nova?
     
  7. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    The statute of limitations protects the innocent and guilty defendants alike.

    People who did it don't suddenly and magically become innocent after the statute of limitations has passed.
     
  8. Blondie in Spokane

    Blondie in Spokane Well-Known Member

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  9. Donjeta

    Donjeta Adji Desir, missing from Florida

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    That seems to be some kind of standard PR release because it's almost verbatim the same statement he made before his January Sandusky show
    http://www.wkyc.com/story/entertain...sions-about-bill-cosby-cancellation/22262269/
     
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