Remains found in Big Spring #2 - Strong Speculation this may be Hailey

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  1. Quiche

    Quiche Well-Known Member

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    ...there's certainly something flippant in his tone. :moo:
     


  2. x_files

    x_files Well-Known Member

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    Are they saying she didn't have any dental records or is Billie lying to slow it down? or maybe her teeth are missing. (I hate typing this).
     
  3. katydid23

    katydid23 On Time Out

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    BBM

    What the heck? Really? That is weird. Why wouldn't he see that stuff too, if it were there? Unless maybe the forensics team already wrapped it up and packed it away.
     
  4. Curious Me

    Curious Me Who When Where What Why & How

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    Yeah, well, whoever framed him knew SA would quit his job that exact day and be hanging around that area that day. The coincidences added up make it hard to believe someone framed him. Wouldn't you agree?
     
  5. katydid23

    katydid23 On Time Out

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    yep, but he would say the body was moved there after the cell pings came out. As for quitting the job that day, that MAY bring Shawn down in the end. There is little explanation for that, imo. Luckily.
     
  6. txsvicki

    txsvicki Active Member

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    They've already tried to blame someone else for putting child porn on his mom's computer which is 2 miles away from where this body was found. We can expect more of the same from him and BD probably if the body is Haylie. To me, the body being found so close may not show premeditation unless the killer thought that abduction off the street would just automatically be accepted, or run away.
     
  7. Tonya3178

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    The JP arrived on the scene 30 minutes after the body was found on Tuesday and pronounced at 3pm. He may have just not wanted to commit to seeing these items due to the investigation that was to follow.
     
  8. ljczec

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    According to Namus, dental records are unavailable. https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/9421/0/

    I don't know much about using dental records to identify a body. Are dental x-rays needed to identify or are the charts that the dentist fills out by hand used? Sometimes children don't have x-rays done unless there is major problems, like needing braces. Maybe that is why they can't use them. I don't recall Hailey having braces so maybe she doesn't have up to date records.
     
  9. gngr~snap

    gngr~snap Verified Pediatric Nurse Georgia

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    All they have to do is print out a photo of Hailey that shows her
    perfect teeth.

    They know if it's her or not and if it wasn't they would have said as much.
    They are waiting on something IMO...

    Identification by photo-skull superimposition. The skull of an unknown child was superimposed onto the portrait of a missing person. The outline of teeth and the facial anatomical similarities suggested that the skull belongs to the child in the portrait. The right central incisor in the skull was lost after death.
    http://www.smiledentaljournal.com/i...d=140:forensic-odontology&catid=44&Itemid=110
    photo of girl
    http://www.smiledentaljournal.com/images/stories/Forensic_Odontology_pics/suh2a.jpg
    ***warning- skull and photo.
    http://www.smiledentaljournal.com/images/stories/Forensic_Odontology_pics/suh2b.jpg
    *** warning- skull
    http://www.smiledentaljournal.com/images/stories/Forensic_Odontology_pics/suh2c.jpg
     
  10. rbrnmw2

    rbrnmw2 New Member

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    FCA did and it was how they were sure it was Caylee
     
  11. Ricki

    Ricki Well-Known Member

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    There were 30 FBI there the first day. I would say it is a good guess to say all evidence pertaining to the crime scene was taking before the JP got there.
     
  12. gngr~snap

    gngr~snap Verified Pediatric Nurse Georgia

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    Good thought~ could be!

    I stand corrected! If there are no teeth they will have to wait on DNA
    unless she has had an xray of say a broken bone in the past.
     
  13. Tonya3178

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  14. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    Not to mention his use of the word "it"...
     
  15. TGIRecovered

    TGIRecovered Well-Known Member

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    If I put myself in Shawn's world,(ughk!) I can see having Hailey near his Mom's home so he could keep an eye on her. If he killed her without Billy knowing and had to get rid of her quickly, this place is familiar, and there doesn't seem to be wildlife roaming around the fenced in area to dig her up.

    Maybe there were more piles of crushed limestone there at the time, so he might not have been visible from the road when he buried her there. It was the week between Christmas and New Year, so the whole place may have been closed for business for a few days.

    At the time Hailey disappeared, the business was American Limestone. They must have had heavy equipment there. Maybe he even found the keys and used it to move limestone on top of the shallow grave. That would explain why the body was not found sooner as well as the lack of complete skeletonization. By the time the Limestone business sold and the tanks were moved in, the whole region was in the worst drought since the 1950's.

    I think that Shawn was scared and he ran straight to his comfort zone. I previously thought that Hailey was probably deep in some fracking hole or even on his family's land. This place makes more sense. It is close-by, familiar, and on someone else's property. Just like Casey's pet cemetary.

    One more thing- Shawn is lazy. Why dig a deep grave in the dirt when you can use a front-loader to pile a bunch of caliche on top instead?

    Okay, two more- I wonder if any of his slasher videos were made there? Maybe the video where they were stoned in the old boat? Hmmm...

    Just my opinion, pending further investigation!
     
  16. For The Kids

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    I feel sick...:(
     
  17. Curious Me

    Curious Me Who When Where What Why & How

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    Yes, we've all been called back to the work of waiting to hopefully see some Justice for sweet Hailey.
     
  18. Cazzie

    Cazzie This is love

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    Yes, I thought the verbage was very disrespectful.

    His words were within quotes. Altho I wonder if perhaps someone paraphrased what he said (no notes, quick notes, no recording, etc.). So maybe that wasn't his wording.
     
  19. Jack

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    I'll have to read back through everything I have read to find it, but I believe the JP was called in very early after the remains were found. Reason is that local law (state? county?) required that a JP 'proclaim' a death has taken place before anything else is done. When I read this my first thought was that perhaps the remains were still partially buried.
     
  20. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    Well with the quotes, I am guessing that is exactly what he said...
     
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