Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 1/15 thru 1/20 Break

Discussion in 'Travis Alexander Trial - The State vs. Jodi Arias' started by LambChop, Jan 14, 2015.

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  1. Nali87

    Nali87 Well-Known Member

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    I get so frustrated at them using those words. Saying "first offense" and "conduct" as if she was caught doing marijuana after school hours.

    It was a murder!
    And she should be sorry for taking a man's life.

    I don't get how they don't see how UN-remorseful and detached those words sound.
     


  2. krkrjx

    krkrjx The answer is blowin' in the wind.

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    Sherry is afraid and worried about appeals. This should not be. She needs to be vigilant but not afraid. Appeals are going to happen regardless of how hard a judge strives to avoid them. If JSS knows the law and rules accordingly, she has nothing to worry about. With these attorneys, the defendant, and some of those witnesses in this trial, Sherry's job is not an easy one--but she will have great difficulty regaining control of her courtroom if she continues to show fear at every word spoken or written by this rabid defense team.
     
  3. Moonchime

    Moonchime Well-Known Member

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    Thank you ZoeyW. for such an excellent post!!!
     
  4. memoriesbymichelle

    memoriesbymichelle New Member

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    IMO, it appears that the judge, and Nurmi, Wilmott and Jodi are all only concerned about their own reputations. Funny that the only one that isn't concerned is Juan. He already has a reputation and it's a good one. And when you are on the right side of justice there is no need to fear. I can kind of understand the judge being so cautious. I DO think she wants to make extra certain that SHE isn't ruling in a way to be overturned on appeal. And with the defense team she has to put up with, with them throwing temper tantrums on the fly every other day, it has to be exhausting and aggravating to say the least. She also recognizes that she is the judge and I don't think she likes it very much when the prosecutor tells her what she can and can't do either.
     
  5. Moonchime

    Moonchime Well-Known Member

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    After the Victims Impact Statements, CMJA couldn't even feign remorse enough to refer to them by name. She can only refer to them as "these people." The jurors were most likely flabbergasted. I know I am, and that is just from reading the transcripts this far past that day.
     
  6. rose222

    rose222 Active Member

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    She should never have banned live coverage of this penalty phase. It all went downhill from there. She gave an inch and Arias has, as usual, took a mile. Arias and team are most excellent in the art of manipulation. Their lack of respect for the Judge is cringeworthy. They have no shame!
     
  7. Moonchime

    Moonchime Well-Known Member

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    ITA. After yesterday, I have the feeling that JSS is at the point where she is about to tell them that enough is enough. The photo of JSS from yesterday is quite telling. She looks absolutely frustrated! 1384194_340211176172465_1684761696921149183_n.jpg
     
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    cindymac New Member

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    The number of messages may be much higher than that - there were 84,000 pages of messages.
     
  9. bsk

    bsk New Member

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    Well I guess we should count our blessings! If it was reversed, Lawrence would have had every witness reciting 83,900 pages of them instead of "only" 100 (or whatever the totals are).
     
  10. AZlawyer

    AZlawyer Verified Attorney

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    Someone I know was trying to convince me the other day that he felt remorse for something because it had a bad effect on someone else but still would do it again if he had the chance.

    Clearly he and I do not have the same understanding of the word "remorse." But I think maybe this is what Jodi thinks too.
     
  11. ZoeyW

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    Respectfully, Mormons do not believe having sex with someone and not marrying them qualifies as being an abusive sociopath. I am sure you didn't mean it the way it reads. I find your posts to be very bright, indeed. Maybe you are just trying to help everyone laugh. We all do need a little levity in this very dark murder trial or we will go crazy trying to make sense of it.

    In that spirit, let me assure Jodi Arias was never really a Mormon http://youtu.be/aRU4NK-7O-g

    This is an interview with Jodi at the first jail. She slips up and reveals much that would later come back to haunt her. Like I said before, people tell on themselves http://youtu.be/m7wc814SAW8?t=2h6m41s

    (more of the entire 5 hour special)
    http://youtu.be/m7wc814SAW8?t=2h32s

    Much like David Lohr changed our lives for the better by editing out the #jodiarias murder trial footage to remove the perpetual sidebars, someone took this five hour special and edited out the commercials. So before I begin....thank you Mr. Bontemps , whoever you are.

    This is the part I want to focus on Jodi Arias' interview , rarely seen, right after her arrest. Some of what she says here Juan Martinez may use to illustrate to the jury how VERY far from the truth the evaluations of Alice LaViolette, Cheryl Karp, Richard Samuels,Bruce Geffner, et al truly are.
    http://youtu.be/m7wc814SAW8?t=2h6m41s


    Here she is discussing her converting to become Mormon. She says she was studying and learning about her new religion and when she had questions she looked many things up on LDS.org

    http://youtu.be/m7wc814SAW8?t=2h10m46s

    I checked it out, it is COMPREHENSIVE AND QUITE CLEAR WHAT THE LAW OF CHASTITY MEANS. So this is an example Juan Martinez can use. She claimed to the jury she had not happened upon any pamphlet that may have explained the law of chastity. Moreover, she did not understand that oral sex and anal sex were included when the missionaries glazed over the topic by saying ANY SEXUAL CONTACT is NOT ALLOWED. What part of the word "Any" did she not understand?

    Wait for it.....on the LDS.org site Jodi Arias tells the reporter she visits for "Any resource one might need regarding being LDS"......guess what there is? A search bar, of course.

    I simply typed "Law of Chastity" and low and behold there it was, clearly defined WITH A VIDEO ENTITLED "What are the limits?" It gives cute little examples in the video, in case you are explaining to a younger person, ( not a 27 year old Einstein).

    Here ya go friends https://www.lds.org/youth/video/chastity-what-are-the-limits?lang=eng
     
  12. Retrofit

    Retrofit New Member

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    I'm way behind and haven't read the entire thread yet but I wanted to share this hilarious tweet with you:

    A DOGG @Wyattanne7Anne ยท Jan 13
    Juans cross #jodiarias perjury trial:
    'M'am u said u wouldn't hurt a fly, yet police found hoards of dead flys in ur house..yes or no?"​

    Please excuse if it appears in another thread.
     
  13. ZoeyW

    ZoeyW New Member

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    If I recall correctly, Nurmi literally made up an entire new story to the jury that seemed to imply Jodi did shoot Travis in the shower. He abandoned the story of she dropped the camera, Travis got angry and jumped out, body slammed her.....altogether. I recall the tweeters ( reporters ) tweeting things like WHAT? WHAT IN THE WORLD NURMI? IS THIS A JOKE? It seems that if Jodi Arias secret testimony would have continued ....mom and pop doing coke wasn't going to be the only revision to Jodi 5.0
     
  14. ZoeyW

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    This jury is the Kim Kardashian became a millionaire due to thousands of people downloading her and RayJ's porn tape generation. They will not be as shocked by the booty call texts, nor a question of porn possibly being on a computer. I don't think it will matter in the least. The jury has seen that Jodi Arias liked, wanted and asked for the way the texts and sex went between the pair of them. Travis was not abusing the ring leader. If anything I think they will be offended at the hypocracy. In the words of Juan Martinez "She was just as Mormon as he was. She converted in 2006. " Those texts would make a drunken sailor blush and they are FROM her TO him in many cases. Jodi was the one texting requesting the dirty things like jizz on face. sodomy.jpg
     
  15. memoriesbymichelle

    memoriesbymichelle New Member

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    That's kind of the same thing Baez did in his opening. It's sad that they don't have to be accountable or PROVE anything they say in opening or closing statements. To me a lie is still a lie, and it was obvious when Baez did it, and it is/was/is obvious when Nurmi or Wilmott do it.
     
  16. LinTX

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    Don't think anyone knows whose book it was, but it wasn't her own writing The only description is that it was photocopied pages of a book someone wrote about the trial, along with her handwritten notes in the margins. There had been no request for a book as required, and the pages were in an envelope labeled "legal papers", IIRC. MCSO correctly stated that copying the book was not legal and so it was contraband, but they gave it back to her anyway. Defense assumed, and probably correctly, that her notes were copied and given to the prosecutor before it was returned to her. :boohoo:
     
  17. Becky Sharp

    Becky Sharp Member

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    Thanks for the answer. Hmmm, I wonder how she got the copies? Didn't know that Maria's job also includes library services.
     
  18. ZoeyW

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    Oh my goodness Frigga, I remember when Juan was pinning ALV down about did she rule out secondary gain. Ever elusive she tried to flip the switch on him and say look...there could be secondary gain in a sex tape. That wasn't very bright as every juror interviewed later opined the sex tape was blackmail she used against him and sparked the dire argument on the 26th. So the secondary gain would enure to Jodi Arias. screenshot of JodiArias' brother.jpg
    ALV was such a jerk and refused to answer and she had to be reminded by the judge to listen carefully and answer only the question as it is posed. Juan by this point was beyond angry with her and this was a day he would say sixty three times "YES. OR NO!" I thought she was, save for Samuels; of course, the worst expert witness I had ever seen. That was until Dr. F. was permitted to say aloud that Juan was going down slime alley because that is the only trick in his playbook. Then Bryan was permitted to say that Juan Martinez, a career civil servant was committing prosecutor misconduct.Literally. Juan did not object to either. I am sure he just grinned to himself as he knew what he had in store for Dr. F. ( the truth ) and that at that very moment Bryan committed career suicide. He would NEVER be called on again to do any work for any branch of Mesa Law Enforcement. Also Juan knew that the members of the jury could see through the b s . This wasn't his first Rodeo. It would take a lot more than the likes of Jodi Arias' "experts" to rattle him. By the time any and all of them got off the stand they had only one collective question, where do we go to get our reputations back?

    You don't tug on Superman's cape
    You don't spit into the wind
    You don't pull the mask off the ole Lone Ranger
    If you think you'll come into his house and mess with Juan Martinez
    You better think .....
    Again!
     
  19. Love Never Fails

    Love Never Fails Well-Known Member

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    AZlawyer, if you come back tonight, I have a question. Remember the little poll taken on WS of when we bet the trial will end? You said February 5th. I was watching Beth Karas and she said "It will be March. Mark my words.". Her opinion only. I was starting to think June until yesterday! Lol. I am wondering why you think Beth would say March? She didn't explain and I am puzzled. I thought the defense had no more witnesses except for Geffner and Juan is pretty fast with witnesses. Do you think Jodi will take the stand and finish her testimony? Her allocution cannot be very long. I am hopeful this can be over very soon. It was really getting to me this week. Oh and one more thing, BK seems to think the defense will bring in more about the computers. Why?
     
  20. ShadyLady

    ShadyLady Well-Known Member

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    Has Jodi's manifest come out?
     
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