Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 1/9-1/12 Break

Discussion in 'Travis Alexander Trial - The State vs. Jodi Arias' started by LambChop, Jan 8, 2015.

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  1. Nali87

    Nali87 Well-Known Member

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    I have a question for AzLawyer as well or anyone else that might know the answer. In Dutch court the role of the judge is completely different than in the US. He or she gets to ask the witnesses questions, demand an investigation etc. It's a very active and investigative role and the judge is not limited by what is presented to him or her by the defense or prosecution.

    Now when it comes to this case, can JSS take things into consideration that havent been presented to her by the defense or the prosecution? Can she use what she herself has observed when coming to a decision? For example Jodi claiming to have a big fear of the media yet being on twitter?
     


  2. LinasK

    LinasK Verified insider- Mark Dribin case

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    The fear of mistrial by juror attritition hasn't happened yet, Nurmi's out of witnesses, his case has to be almost done. We're in the home stretch. I think this jury is invested enough to hang in there.
     
  3. CarolinaMoon

    CarolinaMoon Well-Known Member

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    I feel so much better after that hearing today. I'm still waiting to SEE it! JSS hit some very good points in her questioning to Nurmi. She does know what he's trying to do here, after all. I imagine she's spent countless hours going over testimony from the trial which is pertinent here.

    Crossing my fingers, toes, and eyes waiting for Monday morning, 9:30 AM.
     
  4. CarolinaMoon

    CarolinaMoon Well-Known Member

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    Good nIght to all you
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  6. Hez

    Hez Well-Known Member

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    Nurmi must have been disappointed when he found no child porn on Travis' computer. Considering the type of horrid imagery he no doubt is used to seeing on his sex offender client's computers, I'm sure anything on Travis' computer (which I'm entirely convinced was caused by viruses and the killer herself) was relatively mundane. :moo:
     
  7. AZlawyer

    AZlawyer Verified Attorney

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    Here are the distinctions:

    1. INSANE: This is a big deal. This means you don't know right from wrong. Thus you obviously don't deny your crime, because you don't know it's a problem. You instead, e.g., call your husband and say, "Hey, I drowned the kids to please God FYI." You will not be sent to prison. You will go to a very well-secured mental hospital, probably for life. JA clearly does not fall within this category and no one has ever suggested she does.

    2. INCOMPETENT TO STAND TRIAL: This is not as bad as insane. This means you don't really understand what's going on and therefore can't help your lawyer figure out a defense. You will be "rehabilitated" if possible so you can help. If you can't be rehabilitated, you will probably end up in a normal-security mental hospital. JA clearly does not fall within this category and, to the best of my knowledge, no one has ever suggested she does.

    3. MENTALLY ILL: This covers a lot of ground. As applicable to the JA case, it includes personality disorders that make you react less reasonably to situations than a more mentally balanced person would react. This can be addressed in mitigation but is irrelevant to guilt vs. innocence. JA is clearly mentally ill. She reacts oddly to situations based on something in her brain that is just not normal. The extent or exact type(s) of her mental illness are up for discussion.

    First of all, the judge will not be making any final decisions in this case unless the jury says "life"--then JSS will decide between life with the possibility of parole or without the possibility of parole.

    When she's making decisions on, e.g., motions, she can consider whatever's presented by the parties and whatever she herself has observed happening in the courtroom. She can also ask questions of lawyers and witnesses (although when the jury's there that's often a bad idea because it tends to give the jury the impression that the judge is on one side or another, which can affect their deliberations). She can't go off and investigate things herself.
     
  8. Truth Detector

    Truth Detector Your Humble Observer

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    Hard to believe a full afternoon of court proceedings without LKN saying, "3-hole wonder."
     
  9. Retrofit

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    Does JM get to cross examine JA as to her secret testimony or has he already done so? Or is it just taken along the lines of a victim impact statement and no questions from opposition allowed? If JM can cross, it doesn't seem like it would be much help to JA.
     
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    Another question. I thought I saw somewhere that they had found a photo of Travis as a child wearing Spiderman underwear, etc. and that it was possible he was merely looking at old family photos and that gave JA the idea to accuse him of child porn. Did I dream that?
     
  12. MeeBee

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    She was nodding toward Juan too. And tbh it didn't look necessarily voluntary to me. She could have a medical thing going on i.e. Parkison's or something else that causes involuntary movements. She usually doesn't nod at all. She never does anything to show what she's thinking or feeling.

    Good catch though.
     
  13. Dmacky

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    Nay. It' true. I'm sure someone else can find it quicker than me. Maybe it was on Travis' Blog ?? (not sure)
     
  14. Nali87

    Nali87 Well-Known Member

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  15. Wolfpack Fan

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    My thoughts exactly. I felt sure JSS wouldn't drop the death penalty. That nod looks like she is agreeing with Nurmi.
     
  16. ohreally

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    AZlawyer, I have a question. It seems like Nurmi has made no attempt to get his witnesses that don't want to testify in open court to agree to testify another way (video, audio,affidavit). How long would a judge normally give a lawyer to get this done. Seems like it could be another long delay.
     
  17. ElleElle

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    You called it! Good one! :)
     
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    He seems to be hitting JSS where she's most vulnerable. He truly believes the Judge is his ace-in-the-whole. IMO
     
  19. AngelWings444

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    Yep, she is nodding, as if she is in full agreement with Nurmi that JA can't get a fair sentencing or present mitigation. Not good. JMO
     
  20. noor

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    Where did you watch the judge nodding her head to nurmi?
     
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