Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 11/26 -12/02/14 In recess

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I *think* the 3rd witness might be the computer dude. In all the DT arrogance, they think he'll get to testify about the "*advertiser censored*". Just guessing though.

If JSS allows his testimony she should be immediately removed from the bench and disbarred. JMO

The guy is claiming that Travis did a search after he died and the hard drive is irretrievable because of him. Allowing him to testify would just be infuriating. The only benefit to his testifying would be that Juan would shred him so much that he'd have red marks all over him when he left the witness stand. JMO
 

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It's in black and white on the COA:

View attachment 64334

"..during any testimony by Jodi Arias."

Please don't shoot the messenger. <g> Thanks for the red box, but I too had read the Order well over 4 hrs ago.

The article I posted upthread is from foxnews (AP).

This article from AZ Central says the following:

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The two-page order was brief, but its implications are substantial. By all appearances, said media attorney David Bodney, the secret witness was Jodi Arias herself.

Even though I personally believe the secret witness is indeed JA and I suspect Mr Bodney does as well, the wording of the order *could* be referring to JA as a party (Deft) rather than to to the witness herself. I guess we'll just have to wait for further clarification from the COA and confirmation later.

~fwiw/jmo~
 

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WOW ... just saw the GREAT NEWS !

NO more Secret Witness Testimony !


HAPPY THANKSGIVING !!!


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:happydance: . . . :happydance: . . . :happydance:


:partyguy: :happydance: :partyguy: :happydance::partyguy:


:fireworks: :fireworks: :fireworks: :fireworks: :fireworks:​
 

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Why is the trial taking so long? I mean not just the Nurmi snark, but professionally.
 

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No...Juan's is probably the only book I'd want to read and maybe Travis' family. But I'd probably get too upset reading their story.

I think if Juan wrote a book it would be as big a seller as Helter Skelter. He would make millions.
 

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:laugh: ((()))

These are good points. Her network isn't huge, but it brings in some cash on a seemingly regular basis. The disadvantage to that is that these well meaning, if deluded people have wreaked havoc in her case. They must drive her defense attorneys nuts. I'll say again that I'm convinced she has taken direction from her fans against the advice of her attorneys.

Just a general question/observation. I know there are all kinds of :nuts: out there, but why for criminals like this? Charlie Manson is getting married and people believe this (word I was timed out for using during the last trial) story, errr... stories, errr... stories of different stories that are different from the different stories. I'd really like to talk to one of them, but I think my head would explode from listening to the sheer lunacy.

At least Manson admits to the facts. His beef is that "he" didn't actually kill anyone. So I get that more than believing her. JMO
 

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While reviewing videos from the trial, I came across the video below. Media hearing request to unseal transcripts 20th February. Could anybody tell me if these transcripts been made public? What ever is in these transcripts has clearly shook JA and is shown in the first few minutes of the hearing..... I felt like punching the ipad! Real play acting!!! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xPsPdij-q1g

I too believe that it's the computer expert as another witness as I think I heard it from Nurmi saying that his witness was still working on the hard drive and wouldn't be available for a few weeks. I will try and find it....
 

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Steely Dan

here is all the info on the retrial from day 1:

10/21/14 (Retrial)Day 1- Jodi shaves her ****.
(note: photo of shower floor, but not TA)

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/10/day-1-jodi-shaves-her-twat.html#more

10/22/14 (Retrial) Day 2- Cleaning the jurors out with the quickness

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/10/102214-retrial-day-2-cleaning-jurors.html#more

10/23/14 (Retrial) Day 3 - Much of the same
(note: small photos from the camera and TA sitting in the shower)

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/10/102314-retrial-day-3.html#more

10/27/14 (Retrial) Day 4- "if I killed Travis, I would beg for the death penalty"

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/10/102714-retrial-day-4-if-i-killed-travis.html#more

10/28/14 (Retrial) Day 5- **** in the face!
(note: 2 pics of missy nude, but private parts blacked out)

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/10/102814-retrial-day-5-****-in-face.html#more

10/30/14 (Retrial) Day 6- to hell with the First Amendment.

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/10/103014-retrial-day-6-to-hell-with-first.html#more

10/31/14 (Retrial) Day 7- And the top secret witness is....

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/11/103114-retrial-day-7-and-top-secret.html#more

11/3-11/7/14- A mashup of Jodi news

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/11/113-11714-mashup-of-jodi-news.html#more

11/12/14 (Retrial) Day 8- T-dog and Mr. Hyde
http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/11/111214-retrial-day-8-t-dog-and-mr-hyde.html#more

11/13/14 (Retrial) Day 9- lets sling some mud

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/11/111314-retrial-day-9.html#more

11/17/14 (Retrial) Day 10- email whisperers do exist
(note: bloody sink and 1 nude, blacked out, pic of missy)

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/11/111714-retrial-day-10-email-whisperers.html#more

11/20/14 (Retrial) Day 11- "Fu*k you Bill"
(note: pic of nude, blacked out, missy)

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014...y-11-*advertiser censored*-you-bill.html#more

11/21/14- (no jury) A heated exchange over a computer and *advertiser censored*.
(note: pic of nude , blacked out, missy)

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/11/112114-heated-exchange-over-computer.html#more

11/24/14 (Retrial) Day 14-There's nothing wrong with a little ****le and grind
(note: pic of nude , blacked out, missy)

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/11/112414-retrial-day-14-theres-nothing.html?spref=tw

11/25/14 (Retrial) Day 13- 3 hole virgin suffers in silence

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/11/112514-retrial-day-13-3-hole-virgin.html
 

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That's a good point as well.
PS: You are totally fangirling lol.

I make no apology for doing so. :I love juan Martinez. Love him :loveyou: Not in an inappropriate way! I think he is an unlikely hero but a pretty impressive one. He isn't the most smooth prosecutor in the world, nor the most eloquent one. Yet he is electrifying to watch. And he touches hearts - not in a contrived, soppy way but because he cares deeply about justice for the victim and family of the victim. He doesn't care for the spotlight, he cares about shining the spotlight on the pain of the victim and lies of a savage murderer.
 

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It sounds like JSS doesn't have a firm grip on the defense.

I appreciate the response, but that just sounds like more DT snark. WHAT is happening to make this portion of the trial take so long? This jury is hearing evidence as though it was the guilt portion. What's the hold up here?
 

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Just a general question/observation. I know there are all kinds of :nuts: out there, but why for criminals like this? Charlie Manson is getting married and people believe this (word I was timed out for using during the last trial) story, errr... stories, errr... stories of different stories that are different from the different stories. I'd really like to talk to one of them, but I think my head would explode from listening to the sheer lunacy.

At least Manson admits to the facts. His beef is that "he" didn't actually kill anyone. So I get that more than believing her. JMO

A number of reasons factor into it, as others here at WS have pointed out. First, there are the "boy-men" who see the convict's cosmetic selfies online and cannot contain themselves. (The salacious nude trial photos didn't help in this regard.) But there are other people who have been drawn in: women who have been abused and actually believe her last story, and people who are against the death penalty and erroneously believe that defending her will somehow further their cause. There may be some misguided feminists in there too--those who expect the same rights for women as afforded men but who don't seem to grasp that along with those rights come the same degree of responsibility.

Good to see you around again, Steely. You were one of the first people I corresponded with in this forum. :seeya:
 

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Steely Dan

here is all the info on the retrial from day 1:

10/21/14 (Retrial)Day 1- Jodi shaves her ****.
(note: photo of shower floor, but not TA)

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/10/day-1-jodi-shaves-her-twat.html#more

10/22/14 (Retrial) Day 2- Cleaning the jurors out with the quickness

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/10/102214-retrial-day-2-cleaning-jurors.html#more

10/23/14 (Retrial) Day 3 - Much of the same
(note: small photos from the camera and TA sitting in the shower)

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/10/102314-retrial-day-3.html#more

10/27/14 (Retrial) Day 4- "if I killed Travis, I would beg for the death penalty"

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/10/102714-retrial-day-4-if-i-killed-travis.html#more

10/28/14 (Retrial) Day 5- **** in the face!
(note: 2 pics of missy nude, but private parts blacked out)

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/10/102814-retrial-day-5-****-in-face.html#more

10/30/14 (Retrial) Day 6- to hell with the First Amendment.

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/10/103014-retrial-day-6-to-hell-with-first.html#more

10/31/14 (Retrial) Day 7- And the top secret witness is....

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/11/103114-retrial-day-7-and-top-secret.html#more

11/3-11/7/14- A mashup of Jodi news

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/11/113-11714-mashup-of-jodi-news.html#more

11/12/14 (Retrial) Day 8- T-dog and Mr. Hyde
http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/11/111214-retrial-day-8-t-dog-and-mr-hyde.html#more

11/13/14 (Retrial) Day 9- lets sling some mud

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/11/111314-retrial-day-9.html#more

11/17/14 (Retrial) Day 10- email whisperers do exist
(note: bloody sink and 1 nude, blacked out, pic of missy)

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/11/111714-retrial-day-10-email-whisperers.html#more

11/20/14 (Retrial) Day 11- "Fu*k you Bill"
(note: pic of nude, blacked out, missy)

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014...y-11-*advertiser censored*-you-bill.html#more

11/21/14- (no jury) A heated exchange over a computer and *advertiser censored*.
(note: pic of nude , blacked out, missy)

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/11/112114-heated-exchange-over-computer.html#more

11/24/14 (Retrial) Day 14-There's nothing wrong with a little ****le and grind
(note: pic of nude , blacked out, missy)

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/11/112414-retrial-day-14-theres-nothing.html?spref=tw

11/25/14 (Retrial) Day 13- 3 hole virgin suffers in silence

http://morbitbuzz.blogspot.com/2014/11/112514-retrial-day-13-3-hole-virgin.html

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I'm getting over a sinus infection and I think you cleaned my sinus' completely out because I laughed so hard I shot snot :alien: on my computer screen. (BTW, you owe me a new one.)

I appreciate the response, but that just sounds like more DT snark. WHAT is happening to make this portion of the trial take so long? This jury is hearing evidence as though it was the guilt portion. What's the hold up here?

Seriously, I'm just finding out the back story of the new trial tonight, but it sounds like JSS isn't putting her foot down with the defense. From what others have posted she is being roundly criticized from the media and from other lawyers for letting the defense get away with so much. From my understanding of the things I've read here tonight she's doing a poor job of reigning in the defense. No snark intended.
 

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Yes it is, I posted about it last night on this thread somewhere ;) I forgot I'd had that pic but went looking for a cat in a pilgrim dress pic and stumbled across it. I was on a plane with him a year or so ago coming from San Diego where he was awarded the Prosecutor of the Year and we chatted before and more after the flight. He has always been very nice and kind to me as a crime victim. He knows our case, prosecutor, terrible appeals judge. I texted him (he gave me his number the time this pic was taken saying we should go to lunch sometime) last night and he texted me back...I just congratulated him on a great day in court --I had not used that number in over a year--he thanked me back and was just all around nice. Hes much softer in person as you can see by his sweet smile. I've actualy talked to him quite a few times at the courthouse having atttended most of the trial last time around.

He has integrity and passion. Everything you describe shows how much. IF you ever get the chance, Katy, please would you tell him that he has admirers from all over the world? Not admiring in an inappropriate way but as a sincere appreciation for his work and passion for justice. My sister has also watched the trial because Martinez is mesmerising. It moves me that the fight for justice for Travis Alexander is so well supported. Juan Martinez has played a huge part in that. He is a modern day hero. Nothing less. The pressure he must have been under, for so long, under intense scrutiny - hard to imagine. I hope he knows the huge affection out there for him.
 

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Nurmi said there were three mitigation witnesses. Apparently Jodi was one (the secret). Fonseca second. Who is the third? And another question. Since the COA just cut out a lot of Nurmi's crap, can we get on with Dr. deMarte and the closing arguments and let the jury go home on December 18th? JSS, are you listening?

In one of the hearings this summer, the name James Aiken was brought up. He's a prison expert. Very good credentials and a highly experienced expert witness, which is a change for this defense team.

If he is the other witness mentioned by Martinez in that hearing trying to figure out how to proceed after the COA stay, then the defense is putting on a very, very narrow case. Possibly one civilian witness from Cali, which I presume to Darryl Brewer again.

Don't know how the defense will handle things now that the COA said no secret witness. With Dr. F, the testimony was atypical of what one would expect of a psychologist testifying during a DP phase.

If Aiken is indeed the witness, this means the defense will not be using their own witness to testify about Arias' PTSD and borderline personality disorder. Strange, strange strategy on their part, because the prosecution experts will discount the PTSD diagnosis by Samuels and Karp.

It may be that Arias refused to have an expert discuss her shortcomings on the stand.
 

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I appreciate the response, but that just sounds like more DT snark. WHAT is happening to make this portion of the trial take so long? This jury is hearing evidence as though it was the guilt portion. What's the hold up here?

There have been many delays. The COA stay hearing caused the biggest one, holidays, and the defense liking to keep witnesses on the stand for days on end, that's what's taking so long.
 

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A number of reasons factor into it, as others here at WS have pointed out. First, there are the "boy-men" who see the convict's cosmetic selfies online and cannot contain themselves. (The salacious nude trial photos didn't help in this regard.) But there are other people who have been drawn in: women who have been abused and actually believe her last story, and people who are against the death penalty and erroneously believe that defending her will somehow further their cause. There may be some misguided feminists in there too--those who expect the same rights for women as afforded men but who don't seem to grasp that along with those rights come the same degree of responsibility.

Good to see you around again, Steely. You were one of the first people I corresponded with in this forum. :seeya:

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No offense, but I can't believe that. If that were true youda left a long time ago. :giggle:
 

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I'm getting over a sinus infection and I think you cleaned my sinus' completely out because I laughed so hard I shot snot :alien: on my computer screen. (BTW, you owe me a new one.)



Seriously, I'm just finding out the back story of the new trial tonight, but it sounds like JSS isn't putting her foot down with the defense. From what others have posted she is being roundly criticized from the media and from other lawyers for letting the defense get away with so much. From my understanding of the things I've read here tonight she's doing a poor job of reigning in the defense. No snark intended.

You're not wrong there. JSS's seeming inability to put her foot down on many issues and rein in the players is the main reason for all the delays. In trying to prevent delays she has often caused some of them. It's really no mystery why we're still here. Besides, the trial was projected to go until Dec. 18 so I don't understand why there would be an issue unless we go past that date.
 

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A number of reasons factor into it, as others here at WS have pointed out. First, there are the "boy-men" who see the convict's cosmetic selfies online and cannot contain themselves. (The salacious nude trial photos didn't help in this regard.) But there are other people who have been drawn in: women who have been abused and actually believe her last story, and people who are against the death penalty and erroneously believe that defending her will somehow further their cause. There may be some misguided feminists in there too--those who expect the same rights for women as afforded men but who don't seem to grasp that along with those rights come the same degree of responsibility.

Good to see you around again, Steely. You were one of the first people I corresponded with in this forum. :seeya:

BBM

Ok, I'm gonna lay it on the line here. It's been a long, long, long, long time since I've gotten any. The pictures of JA work best as an ipecac for me. Not that I find KC appealing, but between the two JA makes KC look like a ten. JMO
 

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Ok, I'm gonna lay it on the line here. It's been a long, long, long, long time since I've gotten any. The pictures of JA work best as an ipecac for me. Not that I find KC appealing, but between the two JA makes KC look like a ten. JMO

Steely, you have been missed! :silly:
 
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