Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 21

Discussion in 'Travis Alexander Trial - The State vs. Jodi Arias' started by LambChop, Oct 22, 2014.

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  1. ElleElle

    ElleElle Well-Known Member

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    This scares me a bit.

    "MM said "I did not see any signs of viruses on the computer." MM had testified that he looked for viruses and he told the previous jury that. JW: We now know there were numerous viruses? EF: Yes, there were numerous. JW: We know those statements were false? JM objects." ~ BK Site
     
  2. Val1

    Val1 New Member

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    I also wonder if this, dated 09/11/2008, has any significance to this whole debacle, is it saying that it was up to the DT to bring a list of the specific items of Discovery that they needed for the pre trial conference? It seems to me that the whole thing with JA pretending to represent herself plus the changing of her counsel over that whole first year is more to blame for any problems with what and when any evidence was handed over, besides, since when is the PT's "work"(ie. their Encase copy of a HD) considered evidence when the DT were able to not only gain access to but obtain the actual HD itself?

    http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/092008/m3373092.pdf
    "5. Defense Counsel shall prepare and file a List of Specific Items of Discovery required
    under Rule 15.1 (b), but which were not disclosed. See Rule 15.2(e). Such list shall be filed with
    the assigned Commissioner not less than 5 days before the Initial Pretrial Conference.
    "
     
  3. dog.gone.cute

    dog.gone.cute Kyron Horman - Missing Since 6-4-10

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    :seeya: Here's the super secret condensed version:

    - NO "child p0rn" was found on Travis' computer !

    Of course, we knew this, but at least the jury got to hear it from Det. Flores.

    - NO Transcript released today!

    Supposed to be released tomorrow -- we shall see.

    - NO Rulings on any Motions !

    Supposedly, JSS is going to rule on the Motion for Pros Misconduct AFTER the Pseudo Witness testifies on Wednesday -- again, we shall see.
     
  4. TexMex

    TexMex Punishment is justice for the unjust.

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    Beth thinks the transcripts will be available tomorrow for $576. She will get one, scan it and post it
     
  5. pocketaccent

    pocketaccent Well-Known Member

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    That scares me a lot.
     
  6. Val1

    Val1 New Member

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    Just read this article;

    http://jodiariastrialtruth.blogspot.ca/2015/01/the-truth-about-porn-part-two-case-of.html#comment-form

    it explains all of it, for the short version basically the pc had been wiped of all history before June 1, 2008 and even "Sue" said that there was no hits after June 1, 2008. Everything he did find he attributed to one url listed in the registry which we have yet to see any proof that 1. it was done by a live person and not either by malware or remote access, and 2. that that live person was TA and not one of the other persons(including JA) who had had access to the pc.

    The only part that scares me is that JSS isn't as knowledgeable about such matters and gets snowed by the obvious mistruths spouted by the DT in this matter.
     
  7. pocketaccent

    pocketaccent Well-Known Member

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    BBM The meat dish will be served by a highly intelligent, long legged, dark haired beauty, Dr. DeMarte. When she makes appearance, it's game over.
     
  8. bsk

    bsk New Member

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    Since they are tossing stuff against a wall, they'll argue any and all of the following:
    - In 2009 the state caused the child porn to be deleted from Travis's computer by turning it on, and they hid from the defense that they had changed the hard drive.
    - In 2008 the state caused the child porn to be deleted from Travis's computer when Flores woke it up at the scene, and they hid from the defense that they had changed the hard drive.
    - Given there are these two known instances of the state illegally manipulating evidence and hiding it, they probably manipulated it further in 2008 once they had the computer in their office, falsifying the chain of custody so they could get it scrubbed before making the first image, destroying the child porn forever and making it impossible for Ms Arias to prove her innocence.
     
  9. luvmygarden

    luvmygarden New Member

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    Thanks for the clue to listening to the court days. I babysit and it is sooo hard to read in real time. Funny they pronounce JA's name as Joe Diarreahs on my phone. But that's ok under the circumstances LOL
     
  10. Val1

    Val1 New Member

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    I hope that doesn't mean two thirds of the thing has been redacted...though it seems likely that much of it probably fell under sidebar status. :/
     
  11. bsk

    bsk New Member

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    BBM - Yeah but it'll take six years and cost a billion dollars for the three million pages of transcribed sidebars. :dance:
     
  12. Val1

    Val1 New Member

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    BBM - Exactly and I noted that the order for it did NOT specify the PT's E01 2008 copy, just a copy of the hard drive, plus it was well after the DT had already had their file altering visit. Like JM said, it's not the PT's job to make sure the DT does theirs.

    http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov/docs/Criminal/112009/m3971765.pdf
    "Based on the arguments presented,
    IT IS ORDERED that the State shall disclose on or before November 20, 2009, a mirror
    image of the hard drive
    (internal, external and storage device) and the memory card(s) from the
    cellular phone(s).
    "
     
  13. KathrynL

    KathrynL Well-Known Member

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    Even if she did get LWP, I don't see being paroled. As far as I know, Betty Broderick has been denied every time. A woman from my hometown convicted of murdering her parents and younger brother in 1977 has been denied every time. Not worried, knowing how JA will never own up or change her tune in any relevant way.




    Thanks for that and for all your input. You are so very helpful.

    Nothing, imo. They appear to be trying to create a "fog". But the facts (as I understand them) are that this jury must accept the verdict from the guilt phase, and will have an instruction that instructs them of the mitigating factors they can find (or not). I think Nurmi himself told JA that she didn't have any. He was right, she doesn
     
  14. Val1

    Val1 New Member

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    Just to add to the information, here's the motion/argument about all that...

    http://thetrialdiaries.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Juans-objection-to-the-supplemental-motion-for-dismissal-of-charges1.pdf

    Also, here's the motion where JM interviews Neumeister says he never made an E01 copy... perhaps that's why JM hasn't been able to get that "nonworking" copy of the HD that iirc BN claimed to have made?

    http://www.courtchatter.com/2015/01/jodi-arias-state-motion-to-preclude.html
     
  15. Nali87

    Nali87 Well-Known Member

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    I think Nurmi and JW wanted the media gone so that they could say all these things and act this way without worrying about Nancy Grace or other journalists playing and re-playing their dirty tactics on national tv! Hmph.
     
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    tcrockett New Member

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    re: where exactly Beth's info about the transcripts is posted... it is a 21:09 entry (updated at 21:11) on Day 21 on the members page
     
  17. neesaki

    neesaki Well-Known Member

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    Yet the snarky cynic with his vicious tongue is the one profiting from all the lurid sordidness. What a hypocrite.
     
  18. rose222

    rose222 Active Member

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    I was expecting some sob story about child abuse but rumour has it that there are no bombshells. What was the point of the secret testimony and why was Arias so upset? What a waste, huge waste! It's hard to believe that this petty drama is occurring in an American courtroom.
     
  19. steelman

    steelman Former Member

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    I take it that if Nurmi is successful, and Judge Stephens takes the death penalty off the table, this trial will be wrapped up and finished by the end of the week ? This was Nurmi's strategy all along wasn't it, corrupt the process so badly that everybody just gives up ?

    I wouldn't be surprised if JSS just gives in......she seems to give in to everything else they ask for, including an obscene amount of sidebars and a cloak of secrecy over the entire process.
     
  20. Dmacky

    Dmacky Well-Known Member

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    Till December 18 :wink:
     
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