Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - Day 34

[neesaki]

From his FB post. Snipped. (mods, feel free to delete. Am I allowed to post this?)

There is a long walkway between the South Tower, Superior Court where I was a juror for the Marissa DeVault trial, and the Central Tower, Superior Court for the retrial of Jodi Arias. I was looking into space in front of me when I saw two people walking a block ahead. It took me moments to realize I was seeing the walk of Juan Martinez which I distinctly remembered from the courtroom. The person next to him was walking briskly in her high heels.

I hardly thought about it as I broke into a run. I saw the opportunity to exercise a freedom that a juror never gets to do. I could actually meet a witness without getting dismissed. In those seconds as I ran toward them, a hundred thoughts went through my mind. I felt as if I were chasing after an old friend. In a sense, she was as I had sat five feet from her while I was in the jury box and had been in the rare position of seeing her in both the first phase and the third phase of the Marissa DeVault trial.
Dr. Janeen DeMarte was the most impactful witness of all the witness at the 2014 trial of the murder of Dale Harrell. It was the Doctor’s testimony that stood in the deliberation room while the defense psychologist’s testimony of Karp, King and Conti were laid to ruin. We gave little concern to how long she had been licensed as a psychologist. We only remembered her impact. The only thing we thought negative was that she may have gotten somewhat defensive when Alan Tavasoli cross examined her.

I slowed down only feet behind Juan Martinez and Dr. DeMarte. I did not want to startle them in any way. Besides, I was out of breath and I did not want to interrupt them only to be gasping for air. I moved ahead of Dr. De Marte and turned around, extending my hand. Juan looked at me funny for a moment.

Yes, I went back and read all of that. Posted a minute ago on it in fact, Thanks, AW :wave:

 

[Frigga]

Maybe this clear it up. Not Dorian.
Just the facts ‏@capemayniac 3m3 minutes ago

#jodiarias "court appointed" investigator died, not her private investigator, Dorian Bond

Sad about the PI but why in the heck does Jodi Ann have 2 PI's? If she has a "private" one, why does she also get appointed one by the court... and taxpayers?

 

[Renee110]

She looks like she might be hispanic....so how can it be ethic slur????

She might just think song was appropriate for De La M.

I've read several times that she is Greek. Who knows?

 

[GigiG]

Thanks, Nash. I just now reviewed it. Paul admitted he was enthralled to see them and especially to actually meet them. Apparently, he's not stalking them or anything, as he seems quite forthcoming in his explanation and dialogue. Hey, they are like rock stars to him, as to many of us here. Not unusual, I personally just don't see any problem with that. But that's just me.... JMO :wave:

Yeah... but I found it a bit unsettling. This is a death penalty case, not an entertainment forum. It sounds like JM and DeMarte handled it tactfully, yet I can't help but think that it must have felt like an invasion of privacy. Perhaps because I have so much respect for JM and DeMarte, I would never have presumed it would be okay to approach them unbidden. JMO.

 

[Retrofit]

I agree with you! IMO this extends to online activities like posting negative Amazon.com reviews, MoveOn.org campaigns, etc. To me, even gifting custom blue M&M candies is probably not right. IMO MOO no hard feelings I hope. I understand the motivation, but it's a boundary issue.

Posting here doesn't count. If the DT wants to read these posts, it's up to them to come here seeking them.

I think we all just need to slow our roll here for a bit. Who knows what really happened? I've heard they were already singing before she even came out and I've heard that she was targeted. To me, it doesn't matter. It's such a small thing.

I hate when people call someone they consider a "loser" a "mouth breather." I just don't get it. All I know, is that for the last 20 years or so, my sinuses and nasal allergies have been so severe (even with medication) that I almost have to literally be a "mouth breather." To me that's more hurtful than someone singing that song in an open air forum facing who knows where. What gave her the idea it was intended for her? Maybe they had just stomped on one of our lovely little friends and were singing him to heaven. Now, if they had waited until she walked out the door and blocked her way to perform a serenade of the song, then maybe ...

Personally, I think we should all be more thoughtful of what we're saying to and about others.

Just sayin ...

 

[MeeBee]

Yes. He wrote that he ran after them, had a hard time catching his breath, to shake hands with Dr. D. He sure did. I really respect him and his writings but this had me shaking my head. Let me go look for it. I am 1000000%% positive he ran after them and said Juan was surprised and Dr. D was startled at first. Then, he introduced himself as a former juror in the previous trial. It upset me. Travis and his family needs justice, not a circus surrounding the courthouse. JMO

That doesn't really upset me though. It's not like he's some court spectator chasing people down...I mean kinda, but It is a little different because he was a juror on the Devault case and has expressed great admiration for her and her role in that trial. It's normal for former jurors to come back around and jump at the opportunity to speak with players in the case they deliberated in. He probably just wanted to let her know what a great job he thought she did.

 

[AZlawyer]

Looks like it's been an interesting day.

I was doing an all-day, no-breaks-except-to-pee, no-lunch deposition today. Ex-Navy Seal court reporter so I knew he'd hang in there. I was channeling JM and getting lots of "badgering the witness" objections but frankly I think if the witness had not been lying he would not have felt so badgered lol. :floorlaugh: Feeling aggressive after so I had a medium rare burger and now feel more normal...

I've got 2 more depos back-to-back tomorrow so if anyone has Qs please post in the Lawyer Questions thread and hopefully I'll have an hour or so in the evening to check in.

 

[Frigga]

who the freak cares??????

Only Jodi Ann... and her defense team. No one else, and I mean no one gives a s**t!

 

[My-Future-Ex-Husband]

What I find amazing is how many juror's already had questions for CMJA and she really had not said much.

There were only three questions. IIRC she didn't even mention the child abuse she couldn't remember that she told Dr D about.

 

[Sulamith]

I agree with you! IMO this extends to online activities like posting negative Amazon.com reviews, MoveOn.org campaigns, etc. To me, even gifting custom blue M&M candies is probably not right. IMO MOO no hard feelings I hope. I understand the motivation, but it's a boundary issue.

Posting here doesn't count. If the DT wants to read these posts, it's up to them to come here seeking them.

I agree with you about the boundary issue. I remember that ties were given to Detective Flores and JM. Quite a few people, IMO, took advantage of TA's murder by selling jewelry, can koozies, tennis shoes and other items that I cannot remember now and they stated they would give X amount of the sales to the Alexander family. Good grief, forget trying to sell your merchandise, give a cash donation! MOO

 

[My-Future-Ex-Husband]

Yes he is. He said two days for the Geff.

So in Nurmi time that's at least a week.

 

[MeeBee]

I know. But, he has been hanging with the group that sang the song to MDLR, posing for pics. I think they all need to chill and let this trial end without their interference. The family deserves it. We ALL know the defense is desperate for ANYTHING to latch on to. I also think MK needs to take a chill pill. Drama queen. He's outside talking to MDLR and BK, really? MDLR should mind her own business, but we all know she is doing anything and everything to derail this trial. Nobody should be playing into her game. JMO.

I guess I don't see the problem with people fraternizing with other people. What's wrong with MK talking to a colleague? We also don't know for sure yet if the group actually did that toward her. They said it was innocent. Let's wait and see. I would like to hear BOTH sides of the story before passing judgment.

While I agree it's frustrating when people like that insert themselves into a trial and treat this like a place for entertainment, I don't know what Paul Sander has done to receive so much flack. His writing isn't hurting anyone. Is it always completely accurate? No. But it can be interesting, though I have stopped reading them because they are long and redundant. I do feel his passion for justice for Travis coming through.

As for his approaching Demarte, I don't see how that's any different than any other former juror showing up in a trial of someone he saw in their trial and taking the opportunity to approach them to let them know what a job well done the juror thought they did. Happens all the time. I remember KCL posting that there are still jurors from Juan's cases from years ago that still come to watch him at work. Sometimes seeing justice at work can be interesting. And it is ok to let people know sometimes how good we think they are at their job.

 

[Frigga]

I know. But, he has been hanging with the group that sang the song to MDLR, posing for pics. I think they all need to chill and let this trial end without their interference. The family deserves it. We ALL know the defense is desperate for ANYTHING to latch on to. I also think MK needs to take a chill pill. Drama queen. He's outside talking to MDLR and BK, really? MDLR should mind her own business, but we all know she is doing anything and everything to derail this trial. Nobody should be playing into her game. JMO.

BBM This is the part I am having a hard time with, and I am one of the nicest most diplomatic and politically correct people you could ever meet. I don't like mean people or bullies but I don't get how this lady singing a song (however it was intended) was interfering with the trial.

Nurmi and company... but more importantly Jodi Ann, try to make it so, but it is not. IF something really inappropriate was going on the court security would have intervened- THEY ARE EVERYWHERE. MDLR would not have needed to wait to notify someone, not to mention the fact that there are most likely cameras there too.

This is really getting ridiculous, IMO, and is just more of the "make the Alexanders take their ribbons off", "make Travis supporters be silent and show no emotions- we don't like it", "we want the jurors social media identities", "our witnesses are frightened for their lives... they can't testify, they are ruining my mitigators, we want a mistrial", "the media is ruining my chance for a fair trial", "Juan was signing autographs... thinks he's a star... he's a media *advertiser censored*", "my mitigation specialist was attacked with a racial slur... no? ok... she was being sang at... in latin". This is THE DEFENSE TEAM and beyond hypocritical... and ridiculous. MOO

 

[Sedonia Sunset]

I know. We had a regional sales rep from out corporate office visit us years ago and he said when most independent companies get a computer he finds the first thing they search is "sex". Surprised me to hear this but I am not a prude. I am sure most of the males on the jury are like "who cares".

Back in the late 1980s I used to do computer support for our company. I worked with Unix, but occasionally fielded questions or looked into problems on the VM (older, IBM mainframe) side if I could (not my area of expertise, so I couldn't always help). One day a user asked me to do something that involved looking at his account information. Unlike Unix, the password was actually right there, unencrypted. The password was "SEX4US"

 

[MeeBee]

Maybe I am being super sensitive and paranoid. I believe the defense team will make up anything and everything to get additional trial time or a new trial. Personally, I don't think they have done anything against the law, but you never know how the D team will present it, or if they will drag this trial out because of it. Like I said, I like Paul Sanders and read his posts. Running after a prosecutor and defense witness is not on my top 10 things that are appropriate. I understand his admiration, yet feel this is not the appropriate time. Singing a song to the mitigation specialist, whether they were going to a mexican restaurant or not, is just not the thing to do right now. They absolutely know the defense team will try to use anything to postpone their client going to prison. The defense is hoping and praying for a mistrial or the jurors to be unable to complete this phase. It's their only option. The ONLY reason I am saying anything is because the defense makes anything and everything, into something. This trial needs to end and JA needs to go to prison. The outsiders need to cool their jets, we are on the 1 yard line. Get it done. :jail:

It was her last day on the stand. It was probably as good a time as any.

And still, it might really have been innocent. Someone posted that someone said they were singing already when she walked out. It may really have had nothing to do with her. You are right in that they are looking for anything, even anything that has nothing to do with them. How could they know (if it wasn't on purpose) the defense would hear them and claim they were being racist.

It is such a stupid thing. And the people on both sides have acted so immature and petty. That especially includes cougarlouscious. No, there'd be nothing for them to complain about if people would stop inserting themselves into the trial. But them complaining about every little thing like this is really petty. I have never seen such childish behavior in a court of law in my life.

 

[Sedonia Sunset]

I wonder if Travis went to the site looking around to make sure JA had not put the sex tape up that she deviously recorded? Can anyone upload something to that site? You are probably not going to believe this but I have never been to a *advertiser censored* site or watched *advertiser censored* either.

The one time seems to be relevant to me. Travis certainly wasn't an avid *advertiser censored* watcher so why that day only?

I would LOVE for JM to ask if, while on Uporn, the user searched for "Jodi" :biggrin:

ETA: Or searched for "Travis"

Either would be pretty revealing, so to speak.

 

[Diggin]

I knew this stupid claim would be something totally off the wall and absurd.

Never in my life have I seen such a 275 pound whiney baby like KN. Never.

Everyone on that side is nothing but whiners about things that don't amount to a hill of beans.

Unbelievable. :gaaah:

Yes, they are. But at the same time, the whole defense team is blatant with their tactics and type bullying. Change their mitigating factors at the blink of an eye, filing frivolous motions one after the other, bringing in incompetent 'expert witnesses' or ones who are all working chums under the leadership or in cahoots with Geffner and his IVAT. The schemes they think up are obnoxious.

I was hoping Nurmi had turned over a new leaf when he came in last year looking so different, but he's only gotten more belligerent with each passing week and each passing month. I have to second your, "Unbelievable. :gaaah:"

 

[My-Future-Ex-Husband]

So...the word 'cockroaches' is now a racial slur? Somebody please explain how. I must be out of the loop or something.............

There are no cockroaches in the world apart from MDLR's house......or something.

 

[Diggin]

Maybe people should just go to court, observe the trial, and then go home. There is no love lost between myself and this defense team, but spectators need to stay on the sidelines. That was the biggest reason I was against televising the original trial. People who had no connection whatsoever were treating it as entertainment, imo.
This is strictly my opinion and my observations.

I actually like cameras in the court rooms. I used to watch Court TV a lot. When you can't be there, but can watch when its being filmed, is the next best thing. I miss seeing the actions of all those involved in the case. I wish we still had court TV.

 

[Princess of Oz]

Ugh - been away for a few days and BAM! Miss so much. Hope everyone is well tonight.