Have these two been eliminated as possibles for BK? I could not find threads that said that they have. If so, why? Both are good candidates; both have distinctive noses, both have distinctive eyes. Roger Ellison is spot on for height. Jon is in the range. I am discounting weight for both, as they were both young when missing, so the weight may have changed considerably. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/e/ellison_roger.html http://www.forthelost.org/jhaynes.html http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/haynes_jon.html Jon was planning to go to U of Colorado at Boulder. He may have been there several times, scouting out the campus, thus BK's memories of the library. Jon was from Boulder, so would have perhaps gone to the same restaurants/known of the same sites in the area that BK does. FWIW, Jon was born in San Francisco. I realize Jon's age is younger than BK's, but the other similarities are intriguing. Roger is young too, which is a negative, but there are also similarities. Both his parents (who would be the ones mos likely to recognize him) are dead. I know I am throwing alot of stuff on the board, and if it is big problem, please let me know. I am searching for people with similarities, as I feel that the answer is right in front of us, and we just need to find the right fit.