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Speaking in a video message on February 27, Zelenskiy said his country is ready for peace talks with Russia but not in Belarus. He named Warsaw, Bratislava, Istanbul, Budapest, or Baku as alternative venues.

He said other locations are also possible but made clear that Ukraine doesn’t accept Russia’s selection of Belarus.

Earlier on February 27, the Kremlin said that a Russian delegation had arrived in the Belarusian city of Homel for talks with Ukrainian officials.

Russian Forces Enter Kharkiv Amid Heavy Fighting As Kyiv Braces For Assault
 

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My daughter who has a demanding job and 12 year old child has little time for the news but still tries to keep up with politics and world affairs asked me if this is another war about oil.
I told her, no, this is the ancient and original cause of war, a meglalomanical ego’s desire for territory, power, and legacy.

This link has an informative podcast with Col. Alexander Vindman and Nina Khrushcheva.
I think everyone knows Col. Vindman, Nina is a professor of international studies at The New School in NY and great granddaughter of Nikita Khrushchev, those old enough or who paid attention to their history lessons will remember him from his negotiations with JFK during the Bay of Pigs nuclear threat.

“He’s a Small Man of Five-Six Saying He’s Five-Seven”: The Psychology Behind Putin’s War

And this is a good article by Nina, you may need to sign in to read it.

What's on Putin's Mind? | by Nina L. Khrushcheva - Project Syndicate
 

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February 27, 2022 04:56 Last update: 2 hours ago
Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister Mykhailo Fedorov announced on Twitter on Saturday the creation of a so-called IT army. That army must coordinate DDO attacks on important Russian websites via a special Telegram channel. More than 100,000 people have already registered on the channel.

"We need digital talents. All operational tasks will be distributed here: @itarmyofurraine. There will be something for everyone to do. We continue the fight on the cyber front. The first assignment on the channel is for the cyber specialists," Fedorov 's tweet said.

The Telegram channel includes the names of Russian companies that are largely state-owned, such as Gazprom and Lukoil. Several banks and government websites have also been identified as targets.

It also called on the IT military to file complaints about Russian media YouTube channels that "openly lie about the war in Ukraine".

The Kremlin's website was shut down by hackers on Saturday. Presumably that was the work of the Anonymous group, which had already said it was preparing computer attacks on the Russian government.

Oekraïne bouwt IT-leger om ddos-aanvallen op Rusland uit te voeren | NU - Het laatste nieuws het eerst op NU.nl
 

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Doorvoer van Russisch gas via Oekraïne naar Europa normaal | NU - Het laatste nieuws het eerst op NU.nl

The explosion of a gas pipeline near Kharkiv, Ukraine's second largest city, has not yet had any consequences for the transit of Russian gas to Europe. This is reported by the Ukrainian network company GTSOU on Sunday. Russia's Gazprom also sees no disruption.

In the night from Saturday to Sunday, the gas pipeline near Kharkiv was blown up by the Russians. According to GTSOU, it is not yet clear whether this is a transit line or whether the gas pipeline is part of a regional distribution network. The normal transit of gas on Sunday may indicate that the affected gas pipeline was indeed a distribution pipeline.

I wonder what was really the target. If they missed the transit gas pipeline but hit the distribution pipeline I have a very big question mark with civilian objects, who were supposedly hit by mistake.....

Russen rukken op in Charkov, maar stuiten op veel verzet | NU - Het laatste nieuws het eerst op NU.nl

Russians advance in Kharkiv, but encounter a lot of resistance

Published on February 27, 2022 10:44 am

Russian troops are on Sunday with an advance in Kharkiv, the second largest city in Ukraine. According to unconfirmed sources, that advance could be seen on these images. The Russians encounter a lot of resistance from the Ukrainians.
 
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Greece announced on Saturday that 10 members of the Greek community near Mariupol Ukraine have been killed by Russian fire in three separate incidents on Saturday.

Six expatriates were killed in the village of Sartana on the outskirts of Mariupol in two separate attacks. The village of Sartana is located on the banks of river Kalmius in Donetsk oblast, Ukraine. It’s administratively a part of the Kalmiuskyi Raion of the city of Mariupol.

Four more Greeks were killed in the village of Buhas, north of Mariupol.”

From Greek newspaper. Confirmed by Greek Prime Minister on his twitter.
At Least 10 Greeks Killed in Russian Attacks at Mariupol, Ukraine
 

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Russian troops enter Ukraine's second city of Kharkiv and fierce fighting breaks out after Putin was said to be 'raging' at stalled invasion: Ukrainians obliterate Chechen special forces column of 56 tanks outside Kyiv and kills top general


Kyiv comes under huge aerial and artillery bombardment leaving a pulsing glow over the sky | Daily Mail Online

Updated info about this group of Chechen Special Forces that were killed by the Ukrainians.

Ukraine wipes out barbaric Chechen forces sent to assassinate Zelensky
 
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LIVE | Russische troepen trekken Charkov binnen, gevechten op straat

Fierce street fighting in Kharkiv

Russian troops have entered the Ukrainian city of Kharkov, sparking fighting in the streets. Local authorities say the Ukrainian army is "eliminating the enemy".

There is fighting in several places in Kharkiv. Machine guns are used and explosions have also taken place, reports a journalist from the AFP news agency <Agence France-Presse>. The population has been urged by the authorities to stay indoors.

Authorities reported earlier in the morning that the Russian army had entered the northeastern city with "light vehicles". Videos show Russian military vehicles driving through the streets. Other images show a burning tank.

Kharkiv is the second largest city in Ukraine with 1.4 million inhabitants and is located about 400 kilometers east of the capital Kiev.

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A smashed armored vehicle stands just outside the city of Kharkiv. (Reuters) I'm not good in recognizing armored vehicles...is this a Russian one?

More countries close airspace to Russia


More and more countries are closing their airspace to Russian aircraft due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Belgium, Sweden, Finland, Romania and Denmark, among others, have been added to that list on Sunday.

"Belgium has decided to close its airspace to all Russian airlines," Prime Minister Alexander De Croo said. "Our European skies are open to those who connect people, not those who seek brutal aggression."

Please...keep standing Kharkiv! Long live the Ukrainians. Хай живуть українці
 
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Good article, thank you. If this wasn't such a tragic situation I might find it funny that the Russians can't get fuel from Russia. o_O MOO
Is there a way to read in English or can you summarise what is in the article? Please and thank you
 

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Putin is deliberately taunting the NATO countries that border Ukraine . He's looking for an itchy or shaky trigger finger from one of these countries to then accelerate the aggression into nuclear weapon threats to Europe.

He's calculating that 10 short miles to Poland may cause a major accidental bonmbing of those Russian assets in Belarus.

Latvia, Poland, Hungary, Slovakia, and Romania border Ukraine and are all NATO partners. This would bring the US, the UK, France, Germany, the Netherlands all directly into the fight.

This is an extremely dangerous and provocative act. He's essentially using the torture of Ukraine to lure a massive war where nuclear weapons are possible.


That's why I feel we have to treat this with kid gloves. If he does that, it could go bad very quickly.

Our actions and sanctions against Russia should serve as a strong deterrent and punishment--but they should not goad Putin into escalating the war beyond Ukraine.
 

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Ukraine: what will China do? There are signs it is uneasy about Putin’s methods

Analysis: Beijing has held off from backing Russia, raising questions about the extent of any partnership

China’s decision to abstain on Friday night at the end of the UN security council vote condemning the Russian invasion of Ukraine may be a source of deep frustration in the west, but it will also send a nervous tremor through the Russian ministry of foreign affairs that China’s protection is not unconditional.

UK-based diplomats, looking at the stance adopted by China in the middle of the week, were expecting Beijing to join Russia in voting against the US-sponsored motion, but in common with the United Arab Emirates and India, it abstained, leaving Russia isolated in deploying its veto power as a permanent member of the security council.

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Putin may have shown his respect for China by delaying the invasion until after the Winter Olympics, but China was not consulted about the invasion. Chinese diplomats ridiculed forecasts of an invasion, and left many citizens in situ.

The deeper partnership agreement signed with Russia on 4 February, the opening day of the Beijing Winter Olympics, was predicated on no invasion. China benefits from the existing world order, and finds the instability unsettling. The prospect of Russia being cut out of the Swift payment system may benefit Chinese efforts to build an alternative, but the short-term disruption is worrying.

It was noticeable, for instance, on Friday that Russia offered high-level talks with Ukraine in Minsk, albeit on unacceptable terms, after a conversation between Putin and President Xi Jinping.

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Ukraine, it said, should be a bridge of communication between the east and west, not the frontline of confrontations between major countries. That, by implication, suggests China would favour Ukraine being a neutral state.

The risk for Russia is that if it descends into pariah status, it will be left as a supplicant rather than a future partner with China. Within 10 years, Europe will have freed itself from dependence on Russian gas and oil – that has become a matter of urgent imperative in Rome and Berlin. Russia will be reliant on China as a customer.

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And this is why it's important to know the perspective from where people are posting...this is an article through the eyes of Belgium....I think it's authentic, but colored...not in a bad way at all...BTW

https://www.knack.be/nieuws/wereld/...-niet-in-wit-rusland/live-normal-1837557.html

10:59 on 27/02/2022 by Tex Van berlaer

Zelenski is grateful to Belgium for arms delivery
Ukrainian President Volodimir Zelensky said on Sunday that last night was "very difficult" with Russian bombings he says targeted inhabited areas. He reacted with relief to the establishment of an international coalition to provide aid to Ukraine. That country has been the victim of a Russian attack on land and in the air for the fourth day in a row.

'The night was difficult. There were new firefights, new bombing raids on inhabited areas, on civilian infrastructure. Today we see that the occupying forces leave no target untouched," he said in a video message that was circulated via social media. 'Vasilkiv, Kiev, Chernigov, Sumy, Kharkov and many other cities are currently experiencing things that we have not seen worldwide since the Second World War.'

He turned to Belarus, the country that served as a base for Russian forces before they invaded Ukraine in an attempt to occupy Kiev. "Our children are being murdered from your territory," he said. 'How can you look your children in the eye? How can you look each other in the eye? How can you look your neighbors in the eye? Those neighbors, that's us.'

The Ukrainian president reacted with great relief to the creation of an international coalition to help his country. “We're getting weapons, medication, food, fuel and money. A strong international coalition will support Ukraine, an anti-war coalition.”

He thanked for the supply of weapons from Germany and Belgium and for the European agreement to exclude Russian banks from the Swift platform, which prevents Russia from conducting international trade.

Finally, Zelensky thanked Polish President Andrzej Duda for his efforts to help Ukraine join the EU. He called Russia's criminal actions against Ukraine a genocide and called on the international community to strip Russia of its right to vote in the United Nations Security Council. ( Belgium )
 
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