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I would not put it past them....
Russia Attacks Ukraine - 23 Feb 2022 #9
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I would not put it past them....
I think it's important to separate the Russian people from the current Russian government. It is up to our embassies in foreign countries to do their vetting of visa applicants, even in countries that have well-known terrorist groups, but unless the visa applicant is a known member of a terrorist group or has committed terrorist actions, they should be eligible for a visa. I hope we wouldn't discrminate against Russian citizens who want to come to the U.S. or who are currently in the U.S.
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AUG 14, 2022
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“Throughout the entire six months of war, Russia has not (allowed) proper humanitarian corridors so we could provide our own medicines to the patients that need them,” Liashko said, speaking at the Health Ministry in Kyiv late Friday.
“We believe that these actions are being taken with intent by Russia, and we consider them to be crimes against humanity and war crimes that will be documented and will be recognized,” the minister said.
The Ukrainian government has a program that provides medications to people with cancer and chronic health conditions. The destruction of hospitals and infrastructure along with the displacement of an estimated 7 million people inside the country also have interfered with other forms of treatment, according to United Nations and Ukrainian officials.
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Ukrainian minister says Russia blocking access to medicines
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“Throughout the entire six months of war, Russia has not (allowed) proper humanitarian corridors so we could provide our own medicines to the patients that need them,” Liashko said, speaking at the Health Ministry in Kyiv late Friday.
“We believe that these actions are being taken with intent by Russia, and we consider them to be crimes against humanity and war crimes that will be documented and will be recognized,” the minister said.
The Ukrainian government has a program that provides medications to people with cancer and chronic health conditions. The destruction of hospitals and infrastructure along with the displacement of an estimated 7 million people inside the country also have interfered with other forms of treatment, according to United Nations and Ukrainian officials.
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I wonder what precedence these countries have to deny visas for Russian citizens, and the citizenship of others who are denied access to visas and for what reason.
I think the U.S. denied visas to citizens of some countries early on durng the covid-19 pandemic in an effort to stop the spread, but it was a temporary public health measure. Otherwise, I am not aware of any countries for which their citizens are denied access to U.S. visas, even if those countries are a haven for terrorists.
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Putin knows he's made a 'grave mistake' …
Asked whether Putin knew the invasion of Ukraine was a mistake, Stavridis said: "I think in the dark, quiet hours at two o'clock in the morning when he wakes up, he realizes he's made a mistake. Publicly, he'll never admit that. Never."
Stavridis said Putin would maintain the "fiction" that Neo-Nazis run Ukraine and that he was forced into the conflict by NATO, rather than choosing to invade.
But, he said, Putin knows he is responsible for the invasion, the sanctions, and the military pushback.
"I think he knows it in his heart, he'll never admit it publicly," he said.
Putin is "burning through capability" in Russia's military, per Stavridi.
"I'd say, six months from now, he's going to be in very dire straits," Stavridis said, at which point he speculated that negotiations could begin.
His comments came as reports have highlighted seemingly desperate tactics from Russia to replenish its ranks, including offering freedom to prisoners who enlist, as well as substantial cash bonuses for others who join up.
Putin knows he's made a 'grave mistake' invading Ukraine but will never admit it, says former NATO commander
Asked whether Putin knew the invasion of Ukraine was a mistake, Stavridis said: "I think in the dark, quiet hours at two o'clock in the morning when he wakes up, he realizes he's made a mistake. Publicly, he'll never admit that. Never."
Stavridis said Putin would maintain the "fiction" that Neo-Nazis run Ukraine and that he was forced into the conflict by NATO, rather than choosing to invade.
But, he said, Putin knows he is responsible for the invasion, the sanctions, and the military pushback.
"I think he knows it in his heart, he'll never admit it publicly," he said.
Putin is "burning through capability" in Russia's military, per Stavridi.
"I'd say, six months from now, he's going to be in very dire straits," Stavridis said, at which point he speculated that negotiations could begin.
His comments came as reports have highlighted seemingly desperate tactics from Russia to replenish its ranks, including offering freedom to prisoners who enlist, as well as substantial cash bonuses for others who join up.
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''COPENHAGEN, Denmark (AP) — German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said Monday that Berlin would not back several fellow European countries that have called for an EU-wide move to stop issuing tourist visas to Russian citizens.
The nations backing such a ban say that Russians should not be able to take vacations in Europe while Moscow wages war in Ukraine. Finland and Denmark want an EU decision and some EU countries bordering Russia already no longer issue visas to Russians.
“This is not the war of the Russian people. It is (Russian President Vladimir) Putin’s war and we have to be very clear on that topic,” Scholz said.
“It is important to us to understand that there are a lot of people fleeing from Russia because they are disagreeing with the Russian regime,” he told a press conference on the sidelines of a one-day meeting of the five Nordic leaders in Oslo to which the German chancellor was invited.''
Germany won’t back call to end Russian tourist visas
COPENHAGEN, Denmark (AP) — German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said Monday that Berlin would not back several fellow European countries that have called for an EU-wide move to stop issuing tourist visas to Russian citizens.
The nations backing such a ban say that Russians should not be able to take vacations in Europe while Moscow wages war in Ukraine. Finland and Denmark want an EU decision and some EU countries bordering Russia already no longer issue visas to Russians.
“This is not the war of the Russian people. It is (Russian President Vladimir) Putin’s war and we have to be very clear on that topic,” Scholz said.
“It is important to us to understand that there are a lot of people fleeing from Russia because they are disagreeing with the Russian regime,” he told a press conference on the sidelines of a one-day meeting of the five Nordic leaders in Oslo to which the German chancellor was invited.''
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Russian (and before them the Soviets) have a long history of creating impeccable covers for agents to come to the US, Canada, UK, etc. We can't let our guard down. I don't think we can rely on determining if they are not on a known list to deny them entry. We need to protect ourselves first. The stakes are too high.
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I am deeply concerned by Germany's reaction to this entire conflict.rbbm.
''COPENHAGEN, Denmark (AP) — German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said Monday that Berlin would not back several fellow European countries that have called for an EU-wide move to stop issuing tourist visas to Russian citizens.Germany won’t back call to end Russian tourist visas
COPENHAGEN, Denmark (AP) — German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said Monday that Berlin would not back several fellow European countries that have called for an EU-wide move to stop issuing tourist visas to Russian citizens.
The nations backing such a ban say that Russians should not be able to take vacations in Europe while Moscow wages war in Ukraine. Finland and Denmark want an EU decision and some EU countries bordering Russia already no longer issue visas to Russians.
“This is not the war of the Russian people. It is (Russian President Vladimir) Putin’s war and we have to be very clear on that topic,” Scholz said.
“It is important to us to understand that there are a lot of people fleeing from Russia because they are disagreeing with the Russian regime,” he told a press conference on the sidelines of a one-day meeting of the five Nordic leaders in Oslo to which the German chancellor was invited.''
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That is correct! I am glad Latvia is not letting in any russians....
The Latvian Saima (Parliament) has decided to dismantle the soviet "victory" statue of 1945 defeat of the nazis - and "freeing" Latvia from them... but then began the almost 50 years of soviet communist rule here. So no, I don't want to see any of them at the dismantling... I can just imagine what would happen!!
Glad to see the following U.S. State Department position on visa bans for Russian citizens at press briefing on August 11, 2022 -
"On your question about any visa ban, we’ve been very clear that we intend our actions to not harm or have significant impact on the Russian people. That is not who our disagreement with is on this."
www.state.gov/briefings/department-press-briefing-august-11-2022/
"On your question about any visa ban, we’ve been very clear that we intend our actions to not harm or have significant impact on the Russian people. That is not who our disagreement with is on this."
www.state.gov/briefings/department-press-briefing-august-11-2022/
Germany's response to the proposed travel ban for Russian citizens is in agreement with the U.S. State Department's position.
Germany has a large Russian community, and a travel ban would divide families and punish citizens for their government's actions, regardless of their own position on the conflict.
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AUG 15, 2022
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They are among several hundred Ukrainian recruits pounding through an intense form of infantry training at an army base in southeast England. One batch of the 10,000 Ukrainian soldiers that the British military has pledged to train within 120 days, they are spending several weeks learning skills including marksmanship, battlefield first aid and –- crucially for their country’s future — urban warfare.
As the Ukrainians practice house-clearing amid the rattle of gunfire and pall from smoke grenades on a mock-townscape where British soldiers once trained for operations in Northern Ireland, they think about driving Russian troops from the streets of their own cities..
“The most important part is urban training, because it’s the most dangerous combat, in cities,” said Serhiy, who like the other Ukrainians did not want his full named used because of security concerns. “The British instructors have a lot of experience, from Iraq, Afghanistan. We can adapt all this knowledge to the Ukrainian situation and use it to liberate our country from Russian invasion.”
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Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday vowed to expand military cooperation with the country’s allies, noting that Moscow is ready to offer them its most advanced weapons.
Speaking at the opening of an annual arms show outside Moscow that caters to foreign customers, Putin said that Russia’s arms exports play an important role in the development of a “multipolar word,” the term used by the Kremlin to describe its efforts to offset what it perceives as U.S. global domination.
Putin hailed the Russian military’s action in Ukraine, which has triggered massive Western sanctions, and thanked Moscow’s allies for their support.
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Urban combat and beyond: Ukrainian recruits get UK training
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They are among several hundred Ukrainian recruits pounding through an intense form of infantry training at an army base in southeast England. One batch of the 10,000 Ukrainian soldiers that the British military has pledged to train within 120 days, they are spending several weeks learning skills including marksmanship, battlefield first aid and –- crucially for their country’s future — urban warfare.
As the Ukrainians practice house-clearing amid the rattle of gunfire and pall from smoke grenades on a mock-townscape where British soldiers once trained for operations in Northern Ireland, they think about driving Russian troops from the streets of their own cities..
“The most important part is urban training, because it’s the most dangerous combat, in cities,” said Serhiy, who like the other Ukrainians did not want his full named used because of security concerns. “The British instructors have a lot of experience, from Iraq, Afghanistan. We can adapt all this knowledge to the Ukrainian situation and use it to liberate our country from Russian invasion.”
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Putin vows to expand arms trade with Russia's allies
Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday vowed to expand military cooperation with the country’s allies, noting that Moscow is ready to offer them its most advanced weapons.
Speaking at the opening of an annual arms show outside Moscow that caters to foreign customers, Putin said that Russia’s arms exports play an important role in the development of a “multipolar word,” the term used by the Kremlin to describe its efforts to offset what it perceives as U.S. global domination.
Putin hailed the Russian military’s action in Ukraine, which has triggered massive Western sanctions, and thanked Moscow’s allies for their support.
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AUG 16, 2022
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Russia blamed the blasts in the village of Mayskoye on an “act of sabotage” without naming the perpetrators.
Separately, the Russian business newspaper Kommersant quoted local residents as saying plumes of black smoke also rose over an air base in Crimea’s Gvardeyskoye.
Ukraine stopped short of publicly claiming responsibility for any of the blasts, including those that destroyed nine Russian planes at another Crimean air base last week. Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine in 2014 and has used it to launch attacks against the country in the war that began nearly six months ago.
If Ukrainian forces were, in fact, behind the explosions, they would represent a significant escalation in the war. The Kremlin has demanded that Kyiv recognize Crimea as part of Russia as a condition for ending the fighting, while Ukraine has vowed to drive Moscow’s forces from the peninsula on the Black Sea.
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With much fanfare, ship after ship loaded with grain has sailed from Ukraine after being stuck in the country’s Black Sea ports for nearly six months. More quietly, a parallel wartime deal met Moscow’s demands to clear the way for its wheat to get to the world, too, boosting an industry vital to Russia’s economy that had been ensnared in wider sanctions.
While the U.S. and its European allies work to crush Russia’s finances with a web of penalties for invading Ukraine, they have avoided sanctioning its grains and other goods that feed people worldwide.
Russian and Ukrainian wheat, barley, corn and sunflower oil are important to countries in Asia, Africa and the Middle East, where millions rely on subsidized bread for survival. As the war spiked food and energy prices, millions of people have been pushed into poverty or closer to the brink of starvation.
Two deals that the U.N. and Turkey brokered last month to unblock food supplies depend on each other: one protects ships exporting Ukrainian grain through the Black Sea and the other assures Russia that its food and fertilizer won’t face sanctions, safeguarding one of the pillars of its economy and helping ease concerns from insurers and banks.
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Explosions rock Crimea in suspected Ukrainian attack
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Russia blamed the blasts in the village of Mayskoye on an “act of sabotage” without naming the perpetrators.
Separately, the Russian business newspaper Kommersant quoted local residents as saying plumes of black smoke also rose over an air base in Crimea’s Gvardeyskoye.
Ukraine stopped short of publicly claiming responsibility for any of the blasts, including those that destroyed nine Russian planes at another Crimean air base last week. Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine in 2014 and has used it to launch attacks against the country in the war that began nearly six months ago.
If Ukrainian forces were, in fact, behind the explosions, they would represent a significant escalation in the war. The Kremlin has demanded that Kyiv recognize Crimea as part of Russia as a condition for ending the fighting, while Ukraine has vowed to drive Moscow’s forces from the peninsula on the Black Sea.
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Ukraine's Black Sea deal also helps Russian farmers, economy
With much fanfare, ship after ship loaded with grain has sailed from Ukraine after being stuck in the country’s Black Sea ports for nearly six months. More quietly, a parallel wartime deal met Moscow’s demands to clear the way for its wheat to get to the world, too, boosting an industry vital to Russia’s economy that had been ensnared in wider sanctions.
While the U.S. and its European allies work to crush Russia’s finances with a web of penalties for invading Ukraine, they have avoided sanctioning its grains and other goods that feed people worldwide.
Russian and Ukrainian wheat, barley, corn and sunflower oil are important to countries in Asia, Africa and the Middle East, where millions rely on subsidized bread for survival. As the war spiked food and energy prices, millions of people have been pushed into poverty or closer to the brink of starvation.
Two deals that the U.N. and Turkey brokered last month to unblock food supplies depend on each other: one protects ships exporting Ukrainian grain through the Black Sea and the other assures Russia that its food and fertilizer won’t face sanctions, safeguarding one of the pillars of its economy and helping ease concerns from insurers and banks.
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AUG 16, 2022
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The head of Russian proxy forces in eastern Ukraine’s Donetsk region has sent a message to North Korean leader Kim Jong Un calling for cooperation amid signs the North is considering sending laborers for restoration projects in Russian-occupied regions of Ukraine.
North Korea last month became one of the few nations in the world to recognize the independence of Donetsk and Luhansk, another Russian-backed separatist region in eastern Ukraine, prompting Kyiv to cut off diplomatic ties with Pyongyang.
There are indications North Korea is reviewing plans to send workers for restoration projects in those regions, which could help its economy but run against U.N. Security Council sanctions over its nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles program.
In his comments sent Monday, Donetsk separatist leader Denis Pushilin expressed hope that his Moscow-backed republic and North Korea could achieve “equally beneficial bilateral cooperation agreeing with the interests” of their people, the North’s official Korean Central News Agency said Wednesday.
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Donetsk leader calls for 'beneficial' ties with North Korea
The head of Russian proxy forces in eastern Ukraine’s Donetsk region has sent a message to North Korean leader Kim Jong Un calling for cooperation amid signs the North is considering sending laborers for restoration projects in Russian-occupied regions of Ukraine.
North Korea last month became one of the few nations in the world to recognize the independence of Donetsk and Luhansk, another Russian-backed separatist region in eastern Ukraine, prompting Kyiv to cut off diplomatic ties with Pyongyang.
There are indications North Korea is reviewing plans to send workers for restoration projects in those regions, which could help its economy but run against U.N. Security Council sanctions over its nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles program.
In his comments sent Monday, Donetsk separatist leader Denis Pushilin expressed hope that his Moscow-backed republic and North Korea could achieve “equally beneficial bilateral cooperation agreeing with the interests” of their people, the North’s official Korean Central News Agency said Wednesday.
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Putin has revived the Mother Heroine award. It is a payment of one million rubles to each mother whose 10th child turns one year old (all 9 other children must also be alive). That mother also receives a Mother Heroine gold medal.
Families who have been awarded the Parental Glory award (7 or more children) will receive increased parenting payments.
This article says that the Russian demographic is suffering, especially since they have lost so many young people in their sustained attack on Ukraine. The average age of the tens of thousands of Russians killed is 21.
Russia has also lost "hundreds of thousands of people, including academics, journalists and IT specialists" who have emigrated from Russia since the start of the war.
Putin's critics say he is just wanting to produce cannon fodder.
This decree is part of a wider Kremlin policy that forbids people publicly speaking of a child-free lifestyle or homosexuality. The legislation is still in draft form at the moment.
amp.theaustralian.com.au
Families who have been awarded the Parental Glory award (7 or more children) will receive increased parenting payments.
This article says that the Russian demographic is suffering, especially since they have lost so many young people in their sustained attack on Ukraine. The average age of the tens of thousands of Russians killed is 21.
Russia has also lost "hundreds of thousands of people, including academics, journalists and IT specialists" who have emigrated from Russia since the start of the war.
Putin's critics say he is just wanting to produce cannon fodder.
This decree is part of a wider Kremlin policy that forbids people publicly speaking of a child-free lifestyle or homosexuality. The legislation is still in draft form at the moment.
Putin rewards mums of 10 kids – with a catch
President Putin has revived a Soviet-era award for women who have ten or more children as Russia faces a demographic crisis that has been exacerbated by the war in Ukraine.
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Russia took, invaded, annexed Crimea (the area in question) in 2014 and I believe those were Russian tourists on vacation that were leaving the scene. No one thought that Ukraine weapons could reach Crimea so they assumed they were safe (Russians). Hope they were afraid and ran for their lives like all the people of Ukraine. I've become mean in my old age but they have it coming, imo.
Ukraine is subject to the legal obligations of international law, just as Russia is. We can't be talking about protecting civilian targets on one side and not the other. Civilian/noncombatants must be protected at all costs, revenge is no excuse for breaking humanitarian laws, regardless of which side does it.
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Agreed, but they bombed an airport not civilians. My point was that Russian civilians, enjoying vacation on land that had been taken by Russia in 2014, were impacted. They were not bombed or targeted but were observing the destruction their own country brought to Crimea. Don't feel sorry for them. imo
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