S.B.T.C sound that out loud to yourself

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  1. Dragognosis

    Dragognosis Former Member

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    Kolar and the G J were baffled by the case. Imo.
     
  2. blankenship

    blankenship Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but this gave me the giggles. Spatsy the patsy indeed.
     
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  3. UKGuy

    UKGuy Well-Known Member

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    InvSmith,
    Sure, looks like the parents enacted most of the staging. If you consider John Ramsey can still be charged with Murder in the First Degree, to statute of limits, etc. Then this must have been the case during the Grand Jury proceedings, he was hit with other Counts, so why not Murder 1?

    Looks to me as if Hunter applied due process to repress any involvement by Burke Ramsey, thereby accommdating Colorado's statute on not revealing personal data relating to minors, etc?

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  4. blackcatsarecool

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    I think S.B.T.C stands for something. It's got a meaning. special bonus this christmas, sleeping beauty or spoiled brat etc. It has a meaning. I think the murderer was obsessed with movies and wanted to make his own movie. I think it was a man, mature aged, old enough to know about movies such as Ruthless people from 1986, dirty Harry from 1971, and someone who knew about the 1968 kidnap and ransom note (which is 2 and a half times longer than the Jonbenet ransom note), someone close to the Ramseys, someone who obviously wanted to hurt them, someone who hated the spoiled, overindulged and sassy JBR. The way she was laid out, in her blanket, the severe blow to the head, the strangulation with the garrote, the sexual assault, he meant what he did, it was personal. SBTC has a meaning. He was obsessed with movies so SBTC might stand for something said in a movie.
     
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  5. InvSmith

    InvSmith Sometimes your cross is carried by strangers

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    There was a male neighbor that indicated Dirty Harry had recently played on T.V. in December. In looking at the autopsy, there was evidence of prior assault within the last few weeks. I don't know how an outsider did all the prior acts then ultimately kills in her home. It could happen but no one ever mentioned who that could have been. Actually, I didn't find any investigation that addressed when and where this could have happened. With the foreign faction theme of the letter, I think it could have been Subic Bay. We may never know...
     
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  6. InvSmith

    InvSmith Sometimes your cross is carried by strangers

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    @UKGuy I completely agree about the Grand Jury record suppression. Kolar in his book is pretty clear that medical records for Burke had been removed. The U.S. is somewhat becoming more like the UK with medical record protection. I actually audit and investigate many medical and clinical records in white collar crime. It is easy to figure our when you are not seeing all the records.
     
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  7. InvSmith

    InvSmith Sometimes your cross is carried by strangers

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    I can say after going back and reviewing what has been written and recorded; I don't feel like I know much either. All I know is there were many internal conflicts occurring within the family. I am big on statement analysis and there were a few interviews that really raised flags. Kolar appeared quick to pick these out.
     
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  8. InvSmith

    InvSmith Sometimes your cross is carried by strangers

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    What do you think the word "victory" prior meant with the S.B.T..C.? I am thinking foreign faction and Subic Bay Training Center corresponds. A foreign faction (which there wasn't one) could definitely be in the Philippines and JR was there. Or it is a religious notation.
     
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  9. InvSmith

    InvSmith Sometimes your cross is carried by strangers

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    I don't think anything I reviewed of recent makes this case planned. My overall impression especially with the skull injury at 8.5 inches (I think) was a sudden tragic occurrence. The rest like the paint brush was just staging. It look like she was hit from behind in a sudden uncontrolled event.
     
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  10. blackcatsarecool

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    I think victory stands for the murderers feelings of successfully defeating his enemy, be it either the Ramsey's or John Ramsey. He says in the Ransom note that john's not the only fat cat in town. I think the murderer was someone involved with JR business dealings. It's been said that JR business started in his basement, i find it ironic it essentially ended in his basement. I don't know what SBTC stands for, i suspect it's something that was said in a movie.
     
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    SBTC always brings me back to Patty Heast and the Symbionese Liberation Army.
    Patsy wanted a foreign faction thrown into the mix it couldn’t be the PLO, the brigade rosse or others so she made up her own
     
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  12. blackcatsarecool

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    Are there any official documents that link the paint brush to the birefringent material found in her vagina? The autopsy states "A small number of red blood cells is present on the eroded surface, as is birefringent foreign material." From what i have read, birefringent material in the vagina is often caused through condoms, talc or lubrication, oil etc.
     
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  13. UKGuy

    UKGuy Well-Known Member

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    blackcatsarecool,
    The birefringent material need not be singular it might include all of the above. If the coroner knows that he has observed birefringent material, usually as the result of a standard lab test, then he will know the actual source of the birefringent material, whether it is one or many different samples.

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