Found Deceased SC - Faye Marie Swetlik, 6, Cayce, 10 Feb 2020 #4

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  1. missingm

    missingm Well-Known Member

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    Snipped by me. The spoon was probably something she was playing with.
     
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  2. NEL10

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    I'm also surprised that he didn't run after putting her body in the woods. It sounds like they were checking cars that were leaving the neighborhood, and if he didn't have any evidence hidden in his car..then I'm not sure what he would have been worried about as far as leaving goes. Unless there had been evidence in his trunk previously, and he was worried about LE detecting a "smell" if his car was searched on the way out.
     
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    There is one way we might know - if the roommate observed him doing this or if he is caught on those doorbell/house cameras spending a few lingering minutes watching? it's possible, IMO. But I'm not one who things this is the first time he saw her and did it - everything came together as I posted upthread - and others have posted - opportunity IMO
    Regarding the ladle - I think she was playing with that. I don't think he tried to dig with it to bury her - and if she had it in her hand and he scooped her up so quick - she would still be holding it- I've considered the boot may have been a trophy as well. I watch too many Criminal Minds.
    JMO
     
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  4. Irmese

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    As I understand, CT was linked by his DNA to Faye.
     
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  5. MissMalowe

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    Except it said fresh dirt.
     
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    It's a hell of a lot easier to dig a hole with a soup ladle than with your bare hands. Just sayin.
     
  7. Inthedetails

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    I honestly think she was deceased by the time the searches happened. If he followed the pattern of what usually happened, little Faye was killed before her mom even called the police to report her missing. A cadaver K9 might have found her sooner, but not soon enough to save her. My opinion.

    :(
     
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    NuttMegg Ashley Johnson-Barr murdered at age 10 in Alaska

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    I doubt that. That would mean it came from her house, and that she went to the woods. I bet they definitely matched up the dirt in the ladle with the dirt in the woods where he last put her. I think late Wednesday night early Thursday he was freaking out and did what he could do to try to hide her in the woods. He may not have had a full range of implements to grab in the place he had hidden her, grabbed a soup ladle as the only thing around, maybe part of a camping outfit in his trunk.
     
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  11. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    I think the cars were likely irrelevant, and they were just covering their bases.

    I can think of several cases where law enforcement was looking for particular vehicles, and they proved not to be connected in any way.
     
  12. missingm

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    I think that they are right. It is just difficult to accept the vague evidence followed by an implicit "trust us".
     
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    Thank you, PommyMommy, for your advice to me to watch the media thread. I've never been on it so far. I got home a little while ago, googled the press conference and then came here.

    I very much appreciate the effort put in by LE and all the first responders. It sounds like they did everything possible, but somehow CT slipped through their dragnet. I've no doubt they will live with this forever. CT had to be a literal sociopath to be able to fool these experienced investigators up until his options expired.

    Some dangling details that are confusing to me. If he apparently carried her to the woods at night but had a boot in the trash, I agree with those who feel the boot fell off while he was transporting her, he saw it on the way back and he couldn't risk another trip to the woods. Forgive my insinuation, but given what we suspect, I don't know why he would have still had her boots on at all. I'm making myself sick while I'm writing this, so I'll stop there. I also, like everyone, can't truly figure out how he hid her for two days while police were in the house. I guess he did tuck her away somewhere and LE couldn't just ransack the house of everyone questioned.

    I can 100% envision him grabbing a knife in a panic as he knew the jig was up, but I'm not sure why he'd be on the patio. I would imagine he would've done this in the kitchen as soon as he picked up the knife. If he were still actively bleeding when noticed, he must have just done it. Maybe he crawled to the patio but the police would obviously know that from a blood trail.

    In any event I'm grateful that the family doesn't have to endure a trial.
     
  14. rodneymullenmg

    rodneymullenmg \US for all, not just some

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    If it has been asked or reported, please excuse me

    But has any search of his SM presence revealed any connection to the incel movement? IMO this seems right in line with them.
     
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    Not when you're going to kill yourself as quickly as possible and you haven't had time to prepare. Personalize it and it's understandable, IE; Look around your own home and come up with a faster way. That was the main motivation, imo... the speed at which he could escape LE and the consequences of his depraved actions... by being dead.

    Remember, he probably knows LE is going to be at his door in minutes. He is most likely, literally trapped in his apartment at this point. Pills are out, filling a bath tub / electrocution is out... everything takes too much time and LE would have found him alive and would had him in an ambulance as quickly as it could be done; I'd bet on it... they wanted him alive. When you really think about it; what he chose was his best choice and probably his only choice. He was dead within minutes / mission accomplished.

    ETA: Same deal with his using a soup ladle that some can't understand. Most apartment dwellers do not keep shovels in their apt. He can't risk being seen buying one and bringing it back when LE is searching cars. The body can't remain in his apt and he's decided that Wednesday is the night to make his move. What can he use to dig some sort of hole in the woods? Again, personalize it and look around your own home. What would you use? Me? I'd head straight to my soup ladle drawer. A soup ladle is, in fact, a small shovel.
     
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  16. Irmese

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    I'm thinking the dogs were only used outside. If they didn't have a good item for scent, they might not have been able to locate her, that is if they were for tracking a living person. If they were cadaver dogs, they most likely couldn't catch the scent because she was inside his apartment. JMO.
     
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    Bringing vaporlass' post forward.

    This is a composite sketch for the suspect in a 2012 attempted abduction in Lexington County. (Same county as Cayce.) I must say when I saw this several days ago, it gave me chills. 8 years ago.

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    Composite Sketch Released of Attempted Abduction Suspect
     
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    I couldn't agree more with you @oceanblueeyes... i somehow missed to add the context when i posted this. Somebody had thought that maybe this was a slow death.... With this info, I just wanted to show that this could actually be pretty fast. He may have watched and saw that LE found the boot or poor Faye and by time they would have gotten to him, he would have been gone.

    I also strongly wish that his death was slow and painful... I can't stop thinking about beautiful and kind Faye!
     
  19. Inthedetails

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    Well, to doubt that the perp is in fact the perp is to imply that this group, who appear to be upstanding people, would cover for a pedophile child killer and risk their careers to do so. It's completely unbelievable they would do that. Even hardened criminals in prison despise pedophile child killers.

    jmo
     
  20. CSIDreamer

    CSIDreamer Well-Known Member

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    But they said fresh dirt. Jmo. That leads me to believe he used the ladle as a shovel.
     
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