SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 - #13

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  1. jillycat

    jillycat Well-Known Member

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    The record is the record regardless of if or when it's made public. TE read the phone record and reported it to LE, who surely then saw it for themselves.

    While I'm of the opinion that HE was deceased in a relatively short period of time after her date, I would think any contrived phone 'activity' better match up with ping locations that are reasonable, or someone's alibi has failed. Now, maybe whoever did this and played with the phone was smart enough to have his or her phone pinging from a specific address somewhere, while He's pinged from her condo and then finally PTL.

    Nonetheless, two presumably credible sources (TE and LE), that saw the same record, are reading it differently.

    This matters to me as I sift through the case because if 3:41 was in fact the last time the phone was used at all, as TE said, then this was decidedly well-planned, because a lot of steps and bases were covered before the perp/s wrapped up the crime by 3:41, including staging the last bogus phone activity.

    If the phone was last used at 6:00, I would love to see how the pings rolled, and from where, because if she was deceased before 3:41, that's a case of someone placing even more distance between them and the time of the crime, and spending some serious time creating the illusion that all was well for another 4 or so hours after the date.

    I think the more people lie sometimes, the more they tell the truth. I think this is the case with the perp(s) here, and the phone log is somehow going to be a large wrench in the alibi, not a help to it.

    JMO.
     


  2. Victory

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    Okay, thanks. Ive noticed no mention of it here so it was probably not from LE.
     
  3. Motherof5

    Motherof5 Active Member

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    Heather made a choice [modsnip]! Are you really trying to put SM's troubles on the missing person? If SM,who was quite a bit older than Heather,[modsnip] If he's so concerned about his family being harassed,perhaps he could come clean with LE? Clear his name? Nope....he's not talking. And where is Heather? I'm going to let this go. It's beyond me.
     
  4. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    IMO using the PR we saw as an accurate source may not be a great idea. [modsnip]. The actual phone info may have been corrected/updated since that was written. Police reports change, are modified, added to. Etc The person who wrote it may have heard that her phone was in use at 6am, when really, that could be the time it last pinged, for example. I am not placing a lot of credence in the details from that report and LE has said nothing.
     
  5. TedMac

    TedMac Well-Known Member

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    I think what they were attempting to do is establish an alibi that they were at their home at 6:00 am and HE was calling/texting them on her phone from her home. Thus, the perp can say something to the effect that he was home at 6 am and then went to work and HE was OK and trying to contact him and what may have happened to HE occurred after the perp was home. Of course, this is just my theory.
     
  6. Motherof5

    Motherof5 Active Member

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    All good thoughts!!! I just know that in the beginning,TE stated 3:41 but later LE stated that calls were made between HE and SM though 6:00. I'm sorry,I know that I'm not being very helpful but here is the article.

    http://www.myhorrynews.com/news/local/aynor/article_e27b8722-81fa-11e3-a440-001a4bcf6878.html

    Horry County police records are focusing on telephone activity that occurred as late as 6 a.m. Dec. 18 between Heather ElvisÂ’ cell phone and a man with whom she had a relationship history, according to documents obtained by the Carolina Forest Chronicle.
     
  7. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    Maybe...it depends if the "back and forth" was happening as late as six. Also, if he did in fact go to work that early as a rule, which seems unlikely if he worked at other businesses doing contract work, but not impossible. Would be odd if he went to work unusually early that day.

    JMO I do not really see the point of TE driving by the house. Intimidation? Surely SM is not going to suddenly grow a conscious and confess, if guilty. If anything, he will be less likely to say a word, IMO, with all of the pressures from locals. I can only imagine what would happen to him if he did confess...
     
  8. jillycat

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    I'm going with what TE said because he's said it multiple times, and if he saw anything like I see when I look at my own phone activity, from calls to texts to data, there's no confusion about when my last activity was. Pings would be different.

    And I just hope in lovely Heather's name that someone got their pings twisted when creating an alibi.

    I would so love to see what I like to call a Beautiful Screw-Up somewhere in this phone game.
     
  9. jillycat

    jillycat Well-Known Member

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    Exactly.

    So who got it wrong? (I'm posing the question, not suggesting you should have the answer).

    When I look at my phone records, they stay the same.

    Whatever the case, I agree there was a contrived record for the purpose of an alibi.
     
  10. paris_paris

    paris_paris Well-Known Member

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    This shows as 9:12 to me. She even says in the post that it's 9:12.

    There's another one showing her parents home as the location on July 7th at 4:05 in the morning. I mentioned it in the last thread because it made me think she lived at home, and that seems to be when she first noticed SM.
     
  11. eileenhawkeye

    eileenhawkeye Well-Known Member

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    So SM told Heather that he was leaving his wife. Maybe he added that they were separated or was about to file for it or divorce.
     
  12. Mountain Misst

    Mountain Misst FA in Aus.

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    Could Roomie and HE have been in different time zones? Just thinkin...
     
  13. Hatfield

    Hatfield Well-Known Member

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    Yes, somebody else brought up the same thing and then they both would be right. We know the roomate mentioned she was out of town so that could easily explain it if the roomate was 1 hour back.
     
  14. Moonlite

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    You are misconstruing my words. [modsnip]. I said that she made the choice to engage in the relationship with SM. I do not believe in placing blame 100% on anyone, because that would be a lie. What I do believe in is taking responsibility for actions and owning them. I don't know how else to state this so I will say it plainly, Heather made choices, SM made choices, TM made choices, [modsnip]. All 3 adults are responsible for the choices they made and the situation they created, [modsnip].

    [modsnip]

    IMO denying the choices Heather made, not owning them and trying to down play them is not beneficial at all. For example: I know that there are locals that feel they were mislead because of the image that was portrayed in the beginning and to later find out that certain aspects were not presented, the affair, the tattoos, etc. Owning decisions and actions empowers a person and takes the power out of their critics.

    I also want to just make sure this is clear . Heather is absolutely a victim, her family are victims, her friends, the date, the roommate. All victims. But IMO the BIGGEST victims are the ones that made no choices to be where they are, that are unable to speak for themselves and will have to live with the ramifications for the rest of their lives. JMOO
     
  15. ATasteOfHoney

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    Wasn't it mentioned much earlier back that roomie was in NJ. That would make both of them on EST.......the same time zones.
     
  16. lovinlife83

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    Heather = MISSING
    [modsnip]

    Maybe Heather "seemed upset and was crying" BECAUSE he said he was leaving his wife? [modsnip] Maybe it started as a hot fling at work and later when she found out he was married (possibly by OM informing her not too politely) she posted a few taunting things on twitter and then ended it?
     
  17. Mountain Misst

    Mountain Misst FA in Aus.

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    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    Supposedly, roommate was in FL...some time zone variation in parts of FL.
     
  19. Victory

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    Ive also wondered if the 6 am call was OMM calling to warn Heather or check on her? I really doubt this but thought it may be an option.
     
  20. Moonlite

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    In order to leave someone you would have to be with that person.

    If they were separated or divorcing there would not be a need to say he's leaving to be with her. One would likely state something more along the lines of "it's final", "I'm filing tomorrow" etc. What we have been told is that she told the roommate he was "leaving his wife to be with her."
     
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