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SC - Heather Elvis, 20, Myrtle Beach, 18 Dec 2013 #25 ***ARREST**

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  1. imamaze

    imamaze Former Member

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    If you have any information about her whereabouts you are asked to call the Horry County Police Department: (843) 915-5350.

    Horry County Police Arrest Warrants for Tammy & Sidney Moorer

    Horry County Police Dept.

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    Condolence Thread for Heather's Family
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    If you have questions, pm a Mod.

    Zoomable map, also available in the Maps Media and Timeline thread:
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  2. imamaze

    imamaze Former Member

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    The Rules

    Terms of Service Terms of Service - Short, Plain Language Version - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

    We have a detailed, formal Terms of Service (TOS) posted separately, and that TOS is what you will be held to as a member here. It's long and detailed because it has to be in the world we live in, and you are expected to read it, understand it and abide by it. However, we can sum it up as follows:

    1) Be a decent human being;
    2) Treat your fellow posters as the decent human beings they are;
    3) Keep in mind that whatever you post will likely live on forever, so think before you press "Submit Reply".
    4) It's a big world. People will disagree with you. You will disagree with them. This can be done with respect, and that's what we expect.



    And... No rumor, discuss only what we know thru main stream media and law enforcement. Heather's social media sites are allowed, but you can not discuss any posts other than hers.

    TM and SM are now sleuthable, in conjunction with their arrests.

    The Find Heather Facebook page is not allowed here and no discussion about it.

    You can speculate but no out and out rumor, you can not for example say Heather may have been meeting someone because of drugs, or money etc. Not allowed.


    Please continue here...
     
  3. imamaze

    imamaze Former Member

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    Just a reminder...

    No name calling or name variations. We are a victim friendly site, this includes friends and family.

    No bashing of anyone, no discussion about how someone looks, and please do not make fun of

    the situation that the Moorers are in. This is all very serious and it does not help find Heather

    which is what we are all about here.




    TM & SM's family are not discussable

    Minors are not discussable this includes TM's children

    Pregnancy not discussable
     
  4. OkieGranny

    OkieGranny New Member Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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    The most direct route from the TM/SM's house to the Peachtree boat landing is traced in red; it's 3.87 miles between the two locations.

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    Since Atalaya Place keeps popping up in the discussion, I marked it and measured the distance from there to PTL; it's nearly 11 miles between the two points.

    The red markers are the locations of the Indecent Exposure charges.
     
  5. Salem

    Salem Former Member

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    Please continue here.

    Remember - NO DISCUSSION OF MINORS, NO PICTURES OF MINORS AND NO DISCUSSION OF RUMORS THAT DO NOT HAVE A BASE IN FACT. A link is needed to point us in a direction before speculation is allowed.

    TM and SM are charged with murder, no one else is discussable as a person of interest or suspect.

    Thanks,

    Salem
     
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    Please continue here...
     
  7. OkieGranny

    OkieGranny New Member Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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    This is a rough timeline and not at all complete. Underlined words and phrases are links to sources:

    Mar 8, 1972: TM was born

    Jan 14, 1976: SM was born

    Dec 1982: TM's first trip to Walt Disney World, said she had not missed a year since

    1990: TM graduated from Socastee High School

    Jun 30, 1993: Heather was born

    1995: SM graduated from Lord Berkeley Academy in Moncks Corner, SC

    1997: SM's first trip to Walt Disney World

    Mar 1998: SM and TM honeymooned on a cruise and a trip to Walt Disney World

    1999: TM and SM visited Walt Disney World with SM's family

    Dec 28, 2001: SM and TM were grantees of a deed to 0.84 acres in Socastee

    Nov 18, 2002: SM and TM were grantors of a deed to 0.84 acre of land in Socastee

    Dec 2006: The M family visited Walt Disney World

    Sep 22, 2008: SM received photo credit in a news article about the plane crash that injured Travis Barker and DJ Adam in Augusta, GA

    Sep 24, 2008: TM wrote on the Disboards that she was "with them" a couple of hours before the plane crash that injured Travis Barker and DJ Adam, and that she sold photos of them to the press

    Dec 2008: The M family visited Walt Disney World

    Mar 4-12, 2009: The M family visited Walt Disney World

    Apr 23, 2008: TM wrote on the Disboards that she and SM owned their own companies, made a "#h%t(l@ad of money!" and lived in a huge house that she designed

    Aug 22, 2009: The M family visited Walt Disney World

    Sep 22, 2009: TM wrote on the Disboards that $300 was hard to come by at her house

    Sep 28, 2009: SM was convicted of shoplifting

    Oct 2, 2009: TM wrote on the Disboards that she'd lost her "Disney magic" because their December WDW trip was off; someone who was supposed to buy tickets through her didn't so she didn't have money for the trip

    Dec 2009: The M family visited Walt Disney World

    Aug 6, 2010: TM wrote on the Disboards that they went to Walt Disney World "once a year".

    Sep 20, 2010: SM's business was placed on Angie's List

    Apr 8, 2011: TM wrote on the Disboards that they had booked a Disney cruise to Hawaii

    2011: Heather graduated from St James High School

    Dec 12, 2011: SM, his father-in-law, and a neighbor were arrested after a physical altercation over a property line dispute

    March 2012: The M family visited Walt Disney World

    Jun 2012: The M family visited Walt Disney World for a Star Wars Weekend

    Sep 2012: The M family spent five days at Walt Disney World

    Sep 9-13, 2012: The M family took a four-day Disney cruise to the Bahamas

    Oct 21, 2012: In a post on the Disboards, TM called SM's mother "the evil queen" and mentioned using Florida resident and military discounts when booking their Disney trips

    Oct 23, 2012: TM wrote on the Disboards that SM had a culinary arts degree from J&W, and that he specialized in lighting and design

    Oct 23, 2012: TM wrote on the Disboards about her "rock'n'roll" past, the origin of her "photography thing," and her association with the One Tree Hill TV show

    Oct 26, 2012: TM wrote on the disboards that she and SM built their own house from their own drawings

    Oct 28, 2012: TM wrote on the Disboards that walking on the beach hurt her "lawnmower foot".

    Nov 8, 2012: TM wrote on the Disboards that she and SM had cut her "monstrous in-laws" out of their lives and were having their best year since 1997

    <Nov 17 2012: Heather began working at the Tilted Kilt

    Nov 24-Dec 8, 2012: The M family spent two weeks at Walt Disney World

    2013:

    Feb 4, 2013: TM wrote on the Disboards that the Ms had just returned from another Disney cruise, booked at the last minute

    Mar 17: The M family visited Walt Disney World

    Mar 24: Heather tweeted that she wanted to get a job as a Disney princess

    Mar 25: Heather tweeted that she needed to be in Florida, couldn't stand the distance

    Apr 22: Heather tweeted a picture of Mickey and Minnie rings and said she needed a man who needed them as much as she did

    May 6: On the Disboards, TM offered a free photos shoot to anyone who donated at least $50 toward SM's fundraising goal for the Disney charity event in Jan 2014

    May 14: Heather tweeted the price of a one-way ticket to Thailand

    May 15: Heather tweeted that she regularly downgraded to guys who didn't deserve her

    May 16: Heather tweeted song lyrics, "I was born to be the other woman&#8230;"

    Jun 12: Heather tweeted song lyrics, "I gots a taste for men who're older&#8230;"

    Jun 27: Heather began working at the House of Blues

    Jul 7: Heather tweeted about her attraction to "the guy who builds things at my job"

    Jul 10: Heather tweeted that "Sydney will be there" so she had to make an appearance, later tweeting that she was in too deep but watch her get deeper

    Jul 24: Heather tweeted "prego my eggo"; after a friend reacted to this, Heather responded, "you know I kidddddd &#9829;"

    Aug 30-Sept 4: The M family visited Walt Disney World

    Sep 3: Heather tweeted that there was nothing for her in MB and she needed to go somewhere new

    Sep 21: Heather tweeted that an angel and a devil fell in love and it didn't end well

    Nov 5: Heather tweeted "66 days" on Twitter, and retweeted a tweet about "married fellas" cheating on or murdering their wives

    Dec 4/5: Heather moved into the apartment with BW

    Dec 16: The last time TE saw Heather

    Tuesday, Dec 17:

    &#8226; Heather picked up mail from her parents' house

    &#8226; 4:18pm: Heather made a purchase at the Kangaroo gas station on Mr Joe White Avenue

    &#8226; 4:34pm: Heather made a purchase at McDonalds off International Drive

    &#8226; 7:00pm: Date with SS, age 21, of Murrells Inlet; dinner at a Mexican restaurant, driving around looking at Christmas lights

    &#8226; 10:43pm: Heather texted TE a pic of herself driving SS's truck at Inlet Square Mall

    Wednesday, Dec 18:

    &#8226; <1:44am: SS dropped Heather off at her apartment, said she didn't answer any calls during their date, she was in a good mood but tired, not crying or upset

    &#8226; 1:44am: Heather called her roommate BW, who was away on Christmas break, said she had a great time on her date but was crying and upset after call from SM

    1:53-2:09am: Ten posts were made to Heather's Tumblr

    &#8226; 2:00am: Calls/texts between Heather's and SM's phones began per LE

    &#8226; 3:41am: Last communication on Heather's phone per TE, at PTL

    &#8226; 6:00am: Last calls/texts between Heather's and SM's phones per LE

    Thursday, Dec 19:

    &#8226; <7:00pm: Heather's locked car was found abandoned at Peachtree Landing; her purse and cell phone were not inside

    &#8226; 7:00pm: TE repeatedly tried to call Heather, but her phone went directly to voice mail

    &#8226; 11:10pm: TE filed a missing person report

    Friday, Dec 20:

    &#8226; A search was conducted by LE on the Waccamaw River with a dive team, helicopters and boats

    &#8226; 4:00pm Heather didn't show up for work at the Tilted Kilt

    &#8226; SM told LE he hadn't seen Heather since October, said he last spoke to her by phone on the 18th and told her to quit calling him

    Dec 24: Cue Center asked boaters and fishermen to help search for Heather

    Dec 29: CUE Center, helicopters, and volunteers conducted a search for Heather

    Dec 31: TE posted a sorrowful message on Find Heather Elvis about Heather

    2014:

    Jan 3-5: Volunteers were asked to join in searches for Heather over the weekend

    Jan 4: Volunteers set up a tip tent near the swing bridge on Dick Pond Road

    Jan 10: Volunteers set up a tip tent near Heather's apartment

    Jan 11-12: Cue Center conducted a weekend search for Heather

    Jan 11: SM participated in a half marathon at Walt Disney World

    Jan 17: Article written by TE was published by xojane

    Jan 28: WB and GS were arrested and charged with obstructing justice resulting from misleading Facebook posts and searches and interviews without LE approval

    Feb 4: TE reported to LE that two men in a black Jeep drove by his place of business and yelled at him, &#8220;We already have Heather, [Heather's sister] is next&#8221;

    Feb 6: SM reported to LE that someone in a light-colored truck fired two shots at his vehicle on Ocean Highway

    Feb 20: SM reported to LE that two men in a white truck pointed a shotgun at him in a parking lot on Kings Highway

    Feb 20: TM complained about harassment on her FB page, threatening to file charges "against everyone we possibly can"

    Friday, Feb 21:

    &#8226; 7:30am: LE executed search warrants at the Moorer home; SM and TM were arrested, each on charges of Obstruction of Justice and two counts of Indecent Exposure

    &#8226; 8:50am: TM was booked into the J Reuben Long Detention Center

    &#8226; 11:00am: SM was booked into the J Reuben Long Detention Center

    Feb 22: Bond hearings were held and bonds were set at $20,000 each; TM posted bond but holds were placed on both pending additional charges

    Feb 23: SM and TM were charged with kidnapping Heather

    Feb 24: SM and TM were charged with Heather's murder

    Feb 26: TM was reportedly moved to the Georgetown County Detention Center

    Feb 27-28: LE staged a forensic reenactment and search at PTL and the Waccamaw River
     
  8. floridamomma

    floridamomma "I've never let my school interfere with my educat

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    bringing this over:



    I wonder if Heather & Sidney were in touch during the trip... TM finds out.... it would certainly explain a burst of energy. bc you're so right, heck, a trip to the grocery with one kid wears me out.

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  9. SeriouslySearching

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    Could someone explain to me about telephoneactivity.com? Are those actual phone calls from that particular phone listed as "reference"?
     
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    I was wishing the Solicitor hadn't said probably no death penalty out loud...but now I think he may have said it to throw in the "probably". The M's went to sleep that Thursday night and were arrested Friday morning. After that,they kept waking up to charges that kept getting more serious.I think the Solicitor is sending the M's a message..... Maybe I will and maybe I won't. Sit in your cells and wonder what I'll do next. :jail: I think that SM is very used to being told what to do and when to do it. TM...not so. She controlled everyone and everything in her world. Now she can't even control when she eats and takes a shower. And just when she was getting her bearings...they move her. She is clueless and powerless as to what each day could bring.
     
  11. eileenhawkeye

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    I am not sure exactly what deal could be offered to SM if he confessed. According to this, someone charged with murder, in Sc can be sentenced to 30 years to life/DP. It is the jury who decides during the penalty phase. There is also no early release. There is no 1st degree or 2nd degree murder. Just murder.

    Kidnapping is punishable up to 30 years, unless the victim was killed.

    http://www.mannixlawfirm.com/PDF/MandatorySentencing.pdf

    Even if SM pleaded guilty, went through the penalty phase, the jury could still sentence him to LWOP, right?

    I find it interesting how SC does not have a separate murder category for LWOP/DP cases. I feel like many of us have assumed they would both get LWOP if found guilty, but that is not a given. Of course with the other charges, they would spend rest of their lives behind bars, but I think it would bother a lot of people if they technically only got 30 years for Heather's actual murder.
     
  12. floridamomma

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    seriouslysearch the parking lot for info :)

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  13. OkieGranny

    OkieGranny New Member Staff Member Forum Coordinators

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    I tried my own cell number and the listings under the Reference tab are gibberish to me. Nothing there that I recognize.
     
  14. SeriouslySearching

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    I have to disagree as she now has an attorney telling her everything is going to be fine and he will find a way to get her acquitted. ;) This isn't a pleasant experience for her at all, but she probably believes him as much as she believed in the world of ole' Walt D. Plus I think we will see her being one of those clients overly involved with her law team. She is still calling some shots.
     
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    SC laws:

    http://www.judicial.state.sc.us/summaryCourtBenchBook/HTML/OffensesE.htm

    MURDER

    Exempt Felony

    Code §16-3-10
    CDR Code 116

    Elements Of The Offense:

    1.

    That the accused unlawfully killed another, and

    2.

    That the killing was committed with malice aforethought.

    Note:

    Malice aforethought is the willful doing of an illegal act without just cause and with a previously formed intention to commit such act. A killing may be with malice aforethought although it is conceived and executed at the same time.

    Malice aforethought may be inferred from reckless disregard of human life.

    If malice aforethought is committed in the execution of an unlawful act, all participants are guilty.

    Penalty:

    Death, by imprisonment for life, or by a mandatory minimum term of imprisonment for 30 years to life. §16-3-20.
     
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    I am in no way saying TM is innocent. I say victim only in that SM cheated on her.



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  17. IHAVENOCLUE

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    Thanks for the new thread, Imamaze!

    :seeya:
     
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    IE with malicious intent? I didn't read that. Thank you. I would take that to mean the IE was connected to the crime which still to me means it was likely not sex but possibly changing into and out of clothes that may have DNA from the crime on them.

    Yes TM said terrible things. I don't think she is innocent but I beleive she had her word turned upside down by SM's infidelity. Does not excuse her actions and if convicted I hope they both get the max allowed by law.


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    I thought it was an "open" relationship and TM had also been stepping out?
     
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    Does anyone else think this case may turn out to be rather basic? Twists and turns, yes, but some of the theories being posted are like this case will be remembered in the same way that the Donner party is remembered. Maybe they aren&#8217;t serial killers, maybe there isn&#8217;t a snuff film, etc. I think it&#8217;s most likely Heather was killed and disposed of in a horrible yet "ordinary" way.
     
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