SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #3

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  1. MoeInVA

    MoeInVA Well-Known Member

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    Can you share your theory for why they thought the scene was secure?

    I agree with the assessment that there is more than one Gibson connected to the family. <modsnip>
     
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  2. TJW

    TJW Well-Known Member

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    Just what was said earlier that someone else was there with AM. Maybe had security/training and they had time to make sure scene was safe. I’ve wondered if the M’s had some kind of private security at night. If PM was back in town & had gotten threats, I’d be scared to stay out in the boonies with him. But, if AM did get a message, maybe he called someone else.
     
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  3. TJW

    TJW Well-Known Member

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    And may have nothing to do with the crime.
     
  4. swedeheart

    swedeheart Well-Known Member

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    I know someone mentioned the fantastic Pat Conroy earlier in the thread. Did you know Conroy had written about the Murdaugh's in his memoir, The Death of Santini: The Story of a Father and his Son? (An excellent book if you have not read it yet.)

    :D
     
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  5. Luna20

    Luna20 Well-Known Member

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    That adds yet another tabloid twist to this plot. Not in the way of real correlation just for the sake of mystery.
     
  6. Warwick7

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    @swedeheart great find!!
     
  7. sunshineray

    sunshineray Well-Known Member

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    Because it involves the Murdaugh family (that's an obvious no-brainer) and SLED doesn't want the public to misconstrue the facts of the incident. (Paraphrasing a tad but pretty much what SLED said about revealing certain things redacted).
     
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    Appears the holly st home was sold.

    Rumors swirl about double homicide involving SC law family. Some details begin to emerge.

    June 9,2021
    Snipped

    Moseley had helped construct Alex Murdaugh’s house on Holly Street in Hampton, which was sold last April.
     
  9. TJW

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    That is sooo cool. I love Pat Conroy!!
     
  10. TJW

    TJW Well-Known Member

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    This family knew everyone around including first responders. I’m thinking AM couldn’t get PM or MM on the phone to tell them he was on way home. Thinking something wrong with all the stuff going on with PM, he called someone experienced to meet him at the Lodge. They sure have the 9:00-9:30 timeline down. LE knows there is enough speculation of special treatment already.
     
  11. Elley Mae

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    I have had the same thought bout texted between them. I would imagine AM was in contact with MM about RM’s condition and when he left. Maybe how far out he was from home. May have even got a text about hearing gun shot from one of them and asked LE to do a drive by. Jmo

    I have wondered if one was shot close to 9 and the other 9:30.

    Jmo
     
  12. stmarysmead

    stmarysmead Well-Known Member

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    Yes, that’s true.

    This is small town living….and over generations.

    The M brothers grew up and seemingly went to the local public schools…and probably had childhood friends across a wide social spectrum. I’m betting they have a very wide cross section of friends, not just of the Yacht Club variety….guys they played on teams with, or families they went to church with. They were job creators too, and brought income to this rural area. There was a lot to like.

    Over the generations, they might NEVER had had to step in, in such a public way, for a family member…as they allegedly did for PM. Maybe the power, influence, etc that was there for generations, never was used except to benefit the entire community. But dealing with issues that began to swirl around the sons of AM…starting with the SS investigation…began to require a different approach, in my opinion.

    This is all supposition of course.

    After the boat crash, being focused on saving PM from a jail sentence, IMO, was paramount to the family, which it would be. They might not have realized that rumors were building and some people in the area were now seeing that the M family member in trouble…didn’t seem to be treated , ALLEGEDLY, as they might have been in the same situation. PM’s behavior, or “Timmy’s” behavior in the community at large could have exacerbated the situation, which RM4 admitted somewhat in the interview…about attitudes changing among ‘people that didn’t know PM.”

    Now, all that has gone before, could complicate perceptions of this crime. But any special handling of information would as well, IMO.

    It’s a mess.
     
  13. sunshineray

    sunshineray Well-Known Member

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    Someone probably talked to either MM or PM right before 9pm? Or someone saw them turn onto their road to their property at that time, if they were themselves coming back from seeing the grandfather?
     
  14. Warwick7

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    Ohhhh good thought process!
     
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    A lot of those SUV's have Onstar calling installed or some type of that service.
     
  16. sunshineray

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    What struck me in this article was the Hampton shop owner saying,

    "Patricia Moore, owner of Spinbad Church Supply in Hampton, said that Murdaugh is a powerful name in town.

    “Scary family,” Moore said. “Everyone is scared of them.”

    Although Moore felt the Murdaugh family was intimidating, she hoped the police would find out who killed Maggie and Paul Murdaugh.

    “Regardless of what the family is like, they did not deserve to die like that,” Moore said."




    Rumors swirl about double homicide involving SC law family. Some details begin to emerge.
     
  17. Ray_of_hope

    Ray_of_hope Verified registered nurse

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    I think 'possible witness' may have been someone that had seen an unusual vehicle or person(s) entering, or on the property, but they haven't determined who the vehicle/person(s) are and if they were supposed to be there. Just a guess.
     
  18. Ray_of_hope

    Ray_of_hope Verified registered nurse

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    Has there been a reward offered for tips leading to apprehending the killer and if not, why? This family seems to have a lot of disposable income. Just seems weird to me. I mean someone ruthlessly killed your wife and son.
     
  19. Ray_of_hope

    Ray_of_hope Verified registered nurse

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    Is AM still a prosecutor for the 14th judicial and if so should he recuse himself? Seems as though it would not look good for him or his family to be on the inner workings of the investigation.
     
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    Yes & also SLED might be attempting to be meticulous about procedures and protecting evidence because of the M family's connection to the case. SLED realizes the legal powers of this family. In my opinion, this would make SLED extra cautious about their handling of the case to protect any case they are building. If the suspect(s) end up being directly connected to the family or to a different powerful family, the eventual court case could be insanely challenging to prosecute....so meticulous handling of the evidence and such would be best. Just my thoughts...
     
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