SC - Paul Murdaugh, 22 and mom Margaret, 52, found shot to death, Islandton, 7 June 2021 #3

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  1. LetsSolvIt

    LetsSolvIt Well-Known Member

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    Witness to SS demise?
     


  2. sunshineray

    sunshineray Well-Known Member

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    Why would PM and the widespread Murdaugh machine of lawyers, LE and judges be so intimidated by two tuffs, who if what you think is true, thought it a bit of homophobic fun to hit the gay guy walking on the side of the road in the head with a baseball bat from their moving car?

    I just don't see that threat remaining a threat for 6 years and then it's the wife turning informant because the connected lawyerly men won't figure something out.

    Just a side note, SS's mom has said she thinks she knows, is convinced she knows who killed her son. She's also said she doesn't think Buster was involved and that she thought Buster was a nice young man.

    If she's saying all that why would they go after her and SS's sister? I'm sorry, I don't agree with your senario on this. AJMO
     
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  3. Cryptic

    Cryptic Well-Known Member

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    I think earlier generations of the dynasty would have done just that-

    Declared PM to be well loved by the family, but objectively realized that he was very uhmm...... "problematic" and was eventually going to create a problem that could not be fixed discretely.

    Thus, PM moves to New Orleans (same coastal culture) and is set up as being the quasi owner of a night club, or well, strip joint or two.

    In the end, however, whether the dynasty is royal, political, business etc., there eventually comes a generation where the heirs no longer have the objective thinking skills of the founder. Yet, they are (as you noted) accustomed to receiving the historical privelages given the founder.

    Add in a stress event that they dont have the skills to objectively handle, and the core stress event can snowball and produce other stress events.

    In the case of Russia's Romanov dynasty and Czar Nicholas, the core stress event that started the snowball was WWI. For the Ms it was probably PM.
     
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  4. LetsSolvIt

    LetsSolvIt Well-Known Member

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    Sending you a hug.
     
  5. stmarysmead

    stmarysmead Well-Known Member

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    I’m still curious about the arson fire. When last the story was reported on, it appeared that a local contractor had been apprehended. The crime involved splashing flammable liquid on furniture and interior walls, but IIRC the fire was set on a doormat. Not exactly a crackerjack arsonist…was he?

    Still that must have caused a great deal of inconvenience to the M family. Has anyone ever been able to find out how it was resolved? Did the accused go to trial? Or was the blame just….hung on him…and then, somehow it all went away?
     
  6. Elley Mae

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    Jul 9, 2009

    Local attorney victim of attempted arson


    “We suspect that sometime Thursday night or Friday morning someone spread some kind of accelerant around the house and tried to set it on fire from the back door," said McAlhaney. "Luckily, for some reason it didn't spread through the house and the only thing that burned was the floor mat."

    ...

    Jul 15, 2009

    Police seek suspect in Pizza Hut robbery

    McAlhaney said Tuesday that his agency was still interviewing witnesses and possible suspects and waiting for forensic tests to come back.
     
  7. sunshineray

    sunshineray Well-Known Member

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    Back in the day a wealthy and connected family like the Murdaughs would have had wealthy and connected friends through out the country. They'd have sent PM to another state/region for school under the watchful eye of another family. I bet the Murdaughs were afraid if PM left their area of influence harm would come to him because their name would not mean much out of state.
     
  8. Knitty

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    Whoa! Something must have come out while I was out of town! Has more news come out about the housekeeper's death? And Paul was involved? Thanks!
     
  9. LetsSolvIt

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    I have wondered if this was a retaliatory act by someone who had a reason to be angry at owners.

    Wonder why MM & AM sold this place. Seems like it would be closer to office for commuting but maybe they only had it for convenience when boys were going to local public schools.

    Or decided arson was a message?
     
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  10. LetsSolvIt

    LetsSolvIt Well-Known Member

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    Anyone on this thread living in Lowcountry area?

    Have time or inclination (or courage?) to do some research for stuff that might not be online about arson, housekeeper death, etc? Or find/take photos that might be better than Google?

    In some WS cases I’ve followed, local folks have been part of thread and contributed excellent intel.
     
  11. Oakie

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    In Hampton County, they would have attended the private school, not the public school. When I lived in SC (1988-1998), the public schools in the rural coastal counties were an absolute mess. Parents who wanted their children to have an effective (and safe) education all sent their kids to private schools.

    Edited to add: I don't know when they moved from Hampton County to Colleton County. The boys may have attended high school in Colleton County, but the same remarks would apply.
     
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  12. shefner

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    Its obvious the Murdaugh's didn't send PM out of town because they knew they were capable of covering his misdeeds very well, all while he lived at home. And this gave PM the power to conduct himself any way he chose. The family didn't just turn a blind eye to him, they enabled his actions in numerous ways. The nurse in the ER, at the time of the boating incident, said PM was the most arrogant young man that had ever come through their department.
    I can easily see PM making plenty of enemies.
     
  13. sunshineray

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    I can only find one tiny article mentioning it, no follow-up?

    Local attorney victim of attempted arson
     
  14. TJW

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    No enemies-no one who would want to harm them. I forgot about that arson.
     
  15. sunshineray

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    Just thinking about after dousing the rooms with accelerant the arson lights the doormat on fire to start it? Why? Was someone feeling like a doormat? Just a thought
     
  16. Diddian

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    BM was on the roster for the varsity baseball and basketball teams at Wade Hampton High School in Hampton County in 2013/14 (his statistics can be found online), so I do believe the boys did attend public school, at least at some points in their education.

    Wade Hampton is a public school:
    Explore Wade Hampton High School
     
  17. stmarysmead

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    There was a follow up 0f sorts. Someone posted the newspaper quote on the earlier threads. But whether that person stood trial, charges were dropped, that has yet to be uncovered. It just seemed to go away.
     
  18. Elley Mae

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    Found this

    Arrests made in arson, armed robbery cases

    Michael David List, 40, of 2304 Cross Swamp Road, Islandton, is facing arson charges after previously being arrested on five counts of failure to pay laborers. List appeared before municipal judge John Stanley Thursday for a bond hearing.
    According to warrants, List allegedly sprayed flammable liquids on the furniture and the walls of the Murdaugh residence and then attempted to ignite the dwelling.
     
  19. Elley Mae

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    I think I did see were charges dropped? Or something to that effect.
    Jmo
     
  20. sunshineray

    sunshineray Well-Known Member

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    Someone sprays the inside your house (broke in?) with flammables and sets it on fire and charges are dropped, not prosecuted, in the county of your family's strength...hummm
     
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